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Default 07-22-2013, 21:27 | posts: 11,376 | Location: England

I despair at my country. Why must I be affected because other people can't properly look after and protect their children.

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Default 07-22-2013, 21:59 | posts: 1,747 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

I guess London is the has the most cameras watching your every move, might as well have the government censor your internet.
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 03:18 | posts: 2,269 | Location: Hong Kong

If i remember correctly, they already apply such filter on child porn already. Remember the incident regarding wiki banned for UK due to 1 'problematic' album cover?


   
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Default 07-23-2013, 12:07 | posts: 2,021 | Location: UK

This is a terrible idea and it's a slippery slope. People who want to look at illegal porn will still do so, so this only affects people looking at legal porn which should never be censored. It's not the governments job to protect children from looking at porn, it's their parents job. I can imagine this causing a lot of problems for people, how will a husband explain turning off the filter to his wife? How will the male room mate explain turning off the filter to his female room mates? It's going to be awkward for everyone involved, especially if you have to opt out by phone.

We basically have to sign our names to a "perverts list" and hope it never gets leaked. There's nothing wrong with masturbating but that doesn't mean you want your family to know you're doing it.
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 12:16 | posts: 1,228 | Location: UK

Legalizing Pornography: Lower Sex Crime Rates?

I came across this, thought it was relevant
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 13:43 | posts: 3,918 | Location: Cheshire, England

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This is a terrible idea and it's a slippery slope. People who want to look at illegal porn will still do so, so this only affects people looking at legal porn which should never be censored. It's not the governments job to protect children from looking at porn, it's their parents job. I can imagine this causing a lot of problems for people, how will a husband explain turning off the filter to his wife? How will the male room mate explain turning off the filter to his female room mates? It's going to be awkward for everyone involved, especially if you have to opt out by phone.

We basically have to sign our names to a "perverts list" and hope it never gets leaked. There's nothing wrong with masturbating but that doesn't mean you want your family to know you're doing it.
Funny thing is there's plenty of software out there that has filters, I'm using Kaspersky which has a built in parental filter hell even my router has parental controls.
It all boils down to the fact most parents can't be bothered and expect the government to do everything, hence why the benefits system is such a joke

But you're right people that look at illegal content will continue to do so
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 17:07 | posts: 3,035 | Location: UK

Teenage boys (and girls) will always find a way to view sex, Its natural and all this will do is push them to use stuff like darknet, freenet, tor ect

and trust me the stuff they will find there will have parents begging the government to unblock your regular porntube sites because at least their content is regulated and law abiding.
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 17:47 | posts: 66 | Location: UK: Peterborough

This all makes me laugh really, Camoron is trying to portray himself as the moral parent for the country.

I NEVER LEFT MY 8 YEAR OLD ALONE IN A PUB. DAVE!!!!!!!

Also there is a huge campaign to ban the Sun page 3, Cameron was asked point blank yesterday on national radio if he would support the ban he said and i Quote:

" That is for the consumers to decide "

Hey Dave, Im a consumer, i pay for my internet through my ISP and phone company, how about giving me the same curteosy on whether i want my porn turned off. I live alone, maybe you should have a look at the census records first and then ask the ISP where their are children registered.

We all know that there will be a list of everyone who wants to opt in, it will happen automatically, who is to say that a year down the line and you show up on a CRB check because you opt in to porn.

It wont become a law, it will have to have the majority vote in the commons and the Lords before it can be ratified and by the time it goes through, the general election will be in full swing.
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 17:58 | posts: 13,552 | Location: USA

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I despair at my country. Why must I be affected because other people can't properly look after and protect their children.

CaMORON is a tit!
Porn is bad mmkay
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 18:04 | posts: 13,552 | Location: USA

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Legalizing Pornography: Lower Sex Crime Rates?

I came across this, thought it was relevant
It sounds good on paper but it will never work. There are some really sick mofos out there
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 23:02 | posts: 432 | Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia

I bet there are tons of Brits out there who finally are beginning to realize how stupid it was to impose on themselves the ban on firearms. A people will always be free as long as the government fears them.

Things may not be much better here in the US... but at least if push came to shove, we have the ability to resist tyranny.

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founding father George Mason.
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 23:16 | posts: 1,840

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Teenage boys (and girls) will always find a way to view sex, Its natural and all this will do is push them to use stuff like darknet, freenet, tor ect

and trust me the stuff they will find there will have parents begging the government to unblock your regular porntube sites because at least their content is regulated and law abiding.
This^

and prohibition only increases the curiosity anyway
   
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Default 07-23-2013, 23:20 | posts: 2,226

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It wont become a law, it will have to have the majority vote in the commons and the Lords before it can be ratified and by the time it goes through, the general election will be in full swing.
That's the problem though, right here and right now he is basically threatening the ISPs and Google with the course of action of making it law. He is basically telling them that YOU have to do this and you have to do this NOW and if you don't then I will push through measures to make it law and then you will have no choice.

Hopefully the ISPs and the likes of Google will stand their ground. At the moment the government is making threats and it's obvious that they are hoping that the ISPs will cave, that way Cameron never has to make it law, it never goes to a vote, it just gets done.

This is were we as the consumers have the power, if your ISP is one of the ones that caves then change service and go to another ISP that hasn't caved, and TELL your former ISP that the reason you are leaving is because they have no back bone.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadban...r-porn-filters

When the bigger ISPs start loosing customers to smaller ISPs who are rightfully standing their ground, remember this is not a law it is an out an out threat, what happens then? Do they try and push through the law and risk loosing, do they stand by and hope the big ISPs will stick with the threat even though their is no law to back it up.

This isn't just a big pile of sh*t in basic censorship terms it's a big sh*t stick in terms of the government abusing it's position to enforce something that isn't even a law and may never be a law.

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Default 07-23-2013, 23:52 | posts: 3,918 | Location: Cheshire, England

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I bet there are tons of Brits out there who finally are beginning to realize how stupid it was to impose on themselves the ban on firearms. A people will always be free as long as the government fears them.

Things may not be much better here in the US... but at least if push came to shove, we have the ability to resist tyranny.
Bringing up firearms over a porn filter?
Speaking of which those firearms do wonders against the NSA right
   
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Default 07-24-2013, 00:13 | posts: 1,747 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

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Bringing up firearms over a porn filter?
Speaking of which those firearms do wonders against the NSA right
in numbers they work wonders and it's nice to have a nation that can shoot... sonst würden Sie Deutsch sprechen
   
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Default 07-24-2013, 00:35 | posts: 16,594 | Location: US East Coast

Governments aren't scared of the people anymore.... Too many people are content to sit back and bitch about stupid decisions made by those they elect....


   
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Default 07-24-2013, 00:38 | posts: 1,272 | Location: Langley,B.C. Canada

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I bet there are tons of Brits out there who finally are beginning to realize how stupid it was to impose on themselves the ban on firearms. A people will always be free as long as the government fears them.

Things may not be much better here in the US... but at least if push came to shove, we have the ability to resist tyranny.
That is one of the funnier things I read when that debate pops up.That might have been true when it was written but is not even close to being relevant in today's world when your government has a lot better firearms then you do.
   
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Default 07-24-2013, 03:38 | posts: 2,269 | Location: Hong Kong

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I bet there are tons of Brits out there who finally are beginning to realize how stupid it was to impose on themselves the ban on firearms. A people will always be free as long as the government fears them.

Things may not be much better here in the US... but at least if push came to shove, we have the ability to resist tyranny.
Let me see hows your firearms win over tanks and much better firearms.


   
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Default 07-24-2013, 07:43 | posts: 7,534 | Location: Sunny Scotland

Nothing to be embarrased about phoning up for it to be enabled, i'm just gonna say 'i'd like my tittie back please', and use those exact words and if they don't understand i'll perhaps go with 'hi i'd like my big bouncing boobies activated again please' ..something along those lines, it's all a bit of fun in the end after all. If it's a woman all the better, it's just saying the truth after all, they cut off the channel it wasn't me.
ok if it's a woman i wouldn't use the word tittie, that's a bit much on second thought, boobies is fine though imo.

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Default 07-24-2013, 08:11 | posts: 9,163 | Location: Toledo

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Let me see hows your firearms win over tanks and much better firearms.
Let's see the army go to war with American citizens to begin with.
   
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Default 07-24-2013, 08:31 | posts: 4,385 | Location: Spain

Not everything is bad, this can protect kids from pedos and bla bla bla.

Renting porn-enabled VPN from Spain. Send me a PM

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I bet there are tons of Brits out there who finally are beginning to realize how stupid it was to impose on themselves the ban on firearms. A people will always be free as long as the government fears them.

Things may not be much better here in the US... but at least if push came to shove, we have the ability to resist tyranny.

that's stupid, you dont need firearms to riot. Goverment can't use firearms versus people if they do not have firearms, so its the same but with less casualties.

And anyways many people have firearms anyways (at least in Spain), but they are used for serious bussines, not as a videogame.

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Default 07-24-2013, 11:33 | posts: 3,918 | Location: Cheshire, England

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in numbers they work wonders and it's nice to have a nation that can shoot... sonst würden Sie Deutsch sprechen
Yet more ignorance and this country thanks the RAF for us not speaking German
   
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Default 07-26-2013, 03:23 | posts: 3,455 | Location: UK

The news gets even worse. I am starting to think that the EU might be a better place to live.

Chinese firm Huawei controls net filter praised by PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23452097
   
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Default 07-26-2013, 03:35 | posts: 2,535 | Location: Toronto, Ontario

And now we have an idiot MP over here looking to do the same thing,

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...-winnipeg.html

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A Tory MP from Winnipeg wants to see Canadians "opt in" before they’re allowed to view pornography online.

Conservative MP Joy Smith says she wants to see Canada adopt legislation that requires residents to request access to pornography from their internet service providers or have all pornographic material preemptively blocked.

Earlier this week, British Prime Minister David Cameron announced ISPs will begin blocking access to online pornography unless customers specifically ask to see it.

The legislation would also involve search engines — requiring them to block certain phrases and types of pornography.

Smith thinks Canada should do the same.
   
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Default 07-26-2013, 05:56 | posts: 1,228 | Location: UK

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I bet there are tons of Brits out there who finally are beginning to realize how stupid it was to impose on themselves the ban on firearms. A people will always be free as long as the government fears them.

Things may not be much better here in the US... but at least if push came to shove, we have the ability to resist tyranny.
The armed forces in England do not work for the government, they work for the queen.

I get your point, but things do not work the way you think they do...
   
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