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Default 11-29-2012, 05:44 | posts: 24,427 | Location: NZ

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It is unbelievable that you guys managed to turn a store video to anti-Apple, brainwashed sheep etc etc thread.

They are just proud of their stores, and they should be. They are designed great and have the customer service to back it up. At least when it came to patent trolling, the hate was understandable, but here? Makes me wonder who really is the sheep...
Sounds like Apple transformed your life.
   
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Default 11-29-2012, 06:08 | posts: 16,792 | Location: US East Coast

Every major corporation uses training material that praises their business practices and products. Why should Apple be any different?

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Well, apart from the price you can get a MUCH higher specification phone costing less.

Compare for example a Samsung Galaxy SIII to an iphone 5. The SIII is better in almost every way, better cpu, larger screen, true multi tasking, etc.

The SIII is far cheaper & with regards to hardware it's better. This is why I say iphone is overrated & expensive for what it is.
The specs don't make much difference to most consumers. It's the user experience....which Apple wins at hands down. I love my Samsung Galaxy Stellar, don't get me wrong, but the iPhone provides a better overall experience for most users. Apple's iOS, even on slower hardware, is extremely fluid, it's well laid out and just works. Now, take my last Android phone....the Samsung Transform Ultra. It lagged, it froze constantly....it was a nightmare. Because of Android being an open platform, it's subject to being put on phones with hardware barely capable of running it. You don't see that with the iPhone at all. Instead, you're almost guaranteed to have a pleasant user experience. Can't say that about Android phones due to the wide variety of hardware used.


   
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Default 11-29-2012, 17:23 | posts: 6,999 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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The specs don't make much difference to most consumers. It's the user experience....which Apple wins at hands down. I love my Samsung Galaxy Stellar, don't get me wrong, but the iPhone provides a better overall experience for most users. Apple's iOS, even on slower hardware, is extremely fluid, it's well laid out and just works. Now, take my last Android phone....the Samsung Transform Ultra. It lagged, it froze constantly....it was a nightmare. Because of Android being an open platform, it's subject to being put on phones with hardware barely capable of running it. You don't see that with the iPhone at all. Instead, you're almost guaranteed to have a pleasant user experience. Can't say that about Android phones due to the wide variety of hardware used.
True, however, when looking at high end devices such as the Galaxy Note II & Galaxy SIII, they too are extremely fluid, fast & multi task.

From what I'm seeing Android is getting better & better. It's catching up very quickly.
   
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Default 11-29-2012, 18:13 | posts: 4,149

well it could be worse, wal-mart cheer
   
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Default 11-29-2012, 18:19 | posts: 10,529 | Location: Toledo Ohio

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well it could be worse, wal-mart cheer
I see your cheer and raise you with a Mr Ghetto!
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?ne...%3DPU9c0j4iOtw

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True, however, when looking at high end devices such as the Galaxy Note II & Galaxy SIII, they too are extremely fluid, fast & multi task.

From what I'm seeing Android is getting better & better. It's catching up very quickly.
To be fair with Android's performance, Ios is designed with few devices in mind by Apple. So it's easier to for Apple to manage the OS as far as performance, reliability, and overall smoothness goes. Where as with Android now, there is a base for all of this from Google, but the hardware partners like Samsung, Motorola, etc sometimes have to write their own drivers for their devices, which sometimes does not work out too well...
I have an Iphone 5 now, and I will say that as far as screens go I still prefer my Bionics screen despite having a lower resolution. The 5's 4 inch screen seems like a good size, but the screen is long, and the width of the screen hasn't changed at all. That feels and looks very annoying. Point is, some people may feel that Apple or another company uses better quality parts for build, but that doesn't make it pleasing to the eye and hand!

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Default 11-29-2012, 18:55 | posts: 783

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Sounds like Apple transformed your life.
Yea, taught me not to obsessively hate videos on the internet especially those that don't even remotely apply to me.

But you go ahead on the hate train, but keep in mind that sheeps are not only Apple customers, but widely present in the anti-Apple world as well.
   
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Default 11-29-2012, 19:11 | posts: 11,094 | Location: Finland

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It's like a religious cult..
This. Apple is starting to make me sick.
   
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Default 11-29-2012, 19:50 | posts: 11,417 | Location: England

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This. Apple is starting to make me sick.
Try to avoid them then. Personally, I like their products and have had nothing but excellent customer service. This video is nothing more than the usual corporate brand video, those suffering extreme reactions really need something more serious to worry about.

Horses for courses!
   
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Default 11-29-2012, 19:57 | posts: 783

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Try to avoid them then. Personally, I like their products and have had nothing but excellent customer service. This video is nothing more than the usual corporate brand video, those suffering extreme reactions really need something more serious to worry about.

Horses for courses!
I hate to say it but you are a sheep.

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Default 11-30-2012, 00:02 | posts: 5,066 | Location: Washington State, USA

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Lol @ all the apple hate in every related thread.
what's there to like?
   
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Default 11-30-2012, 02:35 | posts: 11,417 | Location: England

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I hate to say it but you are a sheep.

...I kid
I hate to say it but the haters tend to show two dimensional concrete thinking. It would be far easier to argue that the haters show much more sheep like qualities than the people actually expressing a preference.

The hate is an easy bandwagon to jump upon. Probably feels very safe, I imagine.
   
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Default 11-30-2012, 03:17 | posts: 4,157 | Location: Australia

A 'leaked' video or document is one that Apple (or any other company) does not want you to see, especially one that could represent the company in bad light. This video isn't a leak, its advertising under the label of a 'leak' to suck people into watching it. Even in the unlikely event that it is an internal video that has been posted, Apple will be quite happy with the free publicity. This of course, comes back to the person who posted in initially in the first place. Since it is a fully positive and polished video even if Apple corporate didn't release it for advertising purposes, someone did. It's definitely not the first time it has happened. Some 'leaks' may even be roughened to look genuine (even like phone pics of Powerpoint slides), but are in fact part of the marketting strategy. If it looks leak, it must be, right?
   
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Default 11-30-2012, 06:23 | posts: 2,865 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

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I hate to say it but the haters tend to show two dimensional concrete thinking. It would be far easier to argue that the haters show much more sheep like qualities than the people actually expressing a preference.

The hate is an easy bandwagon to jump upon. Probably feels very safe, I imagine.
Yeah, kind of like your views towards conspiracy theorists.

Anyway, I was with my mum today at the hospital (shes old) and I saw this young fella pull out an iPhone, and then I started explaining to her all about the bullsh1t tactics Apple have been pulling lately and she was not to happy about it.

I hope I made that guy feel guilty.

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Default 11-30-2012, 09:00 | posts: 4,830 | Location: Malta

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I hate to say it but the haters tend to show two dimensional concrete thinking. It would be far easier to argue that the haters show much more sheep like qualities than the people actually expressing a preference.

The hate is an easy bandwagon to jump upon. Probably feels very safe, I imagine.
Eh? How do haters show sheeple qualities?

To quote the definition of sheeple

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The term is used to describe those who voluntarily acquiesce to a suggestion without critical analysis or research
How do haters fall into the above definition? Most haters start to hate Apple because through research and analysis they find out what kind of company they are.

I dislike Apple but I have no problem saying they make excellent laptops. I can say however that their upgrade options are limited and a ripoff, I can also say that Apple tries to exercise total control by introducing proprietary connectors and soldering components.

iSheeple see a macbook/iPhone/iWhatever and go "shinny apple goodness, must buy", which they do, only to turn to other people to gloat about how "awesome" or "hip" they are and how apple is essentially the meaning of life. This situation has unfortunately played out in in-front of me at which point I calmly explain the underlying technology which proves that apple is not the great innovator it pretends to be, rips people off and is a bigger troll then RAMBUS ever was.

So no the hate bandwagon has less sheep like characteristics compared to the average iFan who would eagerly gobble up the bull**** video we have all seen.

So please argue about how apple detractors (I don't like being called a hater) show sheep like qualities?
   
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Default 11-30-2012, 09:26 | posts: 2,865 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

^This man knows what he is talking about.
   
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Default 11-30-2012, 11:40 | posts: 11,417 | Location: England

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Yeah, kind of like your views towards conspiracy theorists.

Anyway, I was with my mum today at the hospital (shes old) and I saw this young fella pull out an iPhone, and then I started explaining to her all about the bullsh1t tactics Apple have been pulling lately and she was not to happy about it.

I hope I made that guy feel guilty.
The long winter evenings must just simply fly by!
   
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Default 11-30-2012, 11:43 | posts: 2,865 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

Sometimes I wish they'd fly by a little faster.

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Default 11-30-2012, 18:53 | posts: 9,465 | Location: UK

I like this one better :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOhhGyPi8UA

   
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Default 11-30-2012, 19:05 | posts: 3,473 | Location: UK

Anyone seen the latest Simpsons? Homer wins a Mypad, pretty funny.
   
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I didnt even watch it when i read word "leaked" in the tittle.

Seriously, a leaked video from apple?? It has "Paid Advertising" written all over it.
   
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Default 12-01-2012, 16:14 | posts: 442 | Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia

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Well, apart from the price you can get a MUCH higher specification phone costing less.

Compare for example a Samsung Galaxy SIII to an iphone 5. The SIII is better in almost every way, better cpu, larger screen, true multi tasking, etc.

The SIII is far cheaper & with regards to hardware it's better. This is why I say iphone is overrated & expensive for what it is.
I think you've just proven yourself to be no better than Apple's mindless sheep since your performance claims are nothing but uninformed BS I hear from anti-apple fanatics. And don't get me wrong, I like Android phones and am not a fan of apple, their cult like following, or their prices...

...but

The iPhone 5 clearly beats out the Galaxy S3 in pretty much every single comparison out there. Plus once you hold each device in your hand and feel the build quality and materials... only someone completely blinded by their hate for Apple the company could possibly pick the S3.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/t...ne-5-review/10
   
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Default 12-01-2012, 16:47 | posts: 7,614 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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^The other reason I stopped watching is that I was concerned Apple may be sending me subliminal messages.
Their messages don't have to be subliminal, their main message is clear enough for me to never want to buy anything apple



Either that or MS has better subliminal messaging tactics
   
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Default 12-02-2012, 12:47 | posts: 6,999 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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The iPhone 5 clearly beats out the Galaxy S3 in pretty much every single comparison out there.
Not according to GSM arena it doesn't. In fact they were very close with regards to performance & speed. When comparing price, the Galaxy SIII gives you better bang for your bucks.
   
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Default 12-02-2012, 16:10 | posts: 3,473 | Location: UK

You're forgetting about the Nexus 4, which has no rival currently.
   
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