Raid 0 Trim support, intel RST 11.2

[chispy]

Fernando did you estract the Bios OROM Raid Intel RAID ROM module v11.5.0.1582 from that Biostar Bios ? If so please can you post it here and share it with us to give it a try , im also in transition to upgrading from my old dying , and aging Asus Rampage 3 eXtreme x58 mobo i7 950 combo , to a newly fresh Asus Z77 Mobo and i5 3570k so i will have a lot of testing going on with Z77 Intel chipset during the next few days.

[chispy]

Nevermind found it:

Credit and thanks goes to cantheru

New Bios Raid OROM v.11.5.0.1582

http://www.canthearu.com/pchraidr.bin

[korrollo]

Originally Posted by Fernando 1

You can do it very easily yourself. >Here< is the guide about how to do it and >here you can find the newest Intel RAID ROM modules as already extracted files. I recommend to replace the actual Intel RAID ROM of your BIOS by the v11.5.0.1414 or - v11.5.0.1582.

Okey I will try that, how do I know what the DeviceID/VendorID RAID Controller is on my Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe ?

[korrollo]

could it be this???

Namn Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller
Tillverkare Intel Corporation
Status OK
PNP-enhets-ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&115 83659&0&FA

Does it mean I have 8086,282a ?

[Fernando 1]

Originally Posted by korrollo

could it be this???
Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&115 83659&0&FA
Does it mean I have 8086,282a ?

You have 8086,2822 (because you have a Desktop PC), but you should replace the PCI ROM named 8086,282a (stands for a Mobile/Laptop), because both Devices DEV_2822 and DEV_282a) are using the exactly same Intel RAID ROM module.
ASUS is lazy and uses the same DeviceID for all their Desktop and Mobile mainboards, when they are building the BIOS files. That is somehow irritating for the user.
So it's safe, if you chosse the 8086,282a ROM module.

[korrollo]

Asus has released a new bios for Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe today that has v11.5.0.1582 so I dont have to make one!

[Fernando 1]

After having replaced my Z68 chipset mainboard by a Z77 chipset one, Trim obviously was working within my RAID0 array (2x128 GB Crucial M4 SSDs).
Yesterday I could verify it with Win8 x64 by doing a simple Trim analysis test. >Here< I have described the Trim verification test we used and reported about the first findings of btester and andressergio. You can see my new test results and the related screenshots running Win8 x64 with an Intel Z77 system >here< are the screenshots). Today I repeated the tests with Win7 x64 (look >here<). In both tests the SSD sector with the deleted file has been zeroed out within seconds. Garbage Collection is not able to do it.
Precondition: Use of the latest Intel RST(e) RAID ROM and RAID drivers of the v11.5 series.

[slickric21]

Thanks for the update and confirmation.

Now i've got a decision to make....
Wait for (if any) z68 support, or waste £100 on a new z77 mobo just for TRIM.... Hmmmm

[Ouzo]

Wow, very interesting thread after summer holidays

Godda read all the info, and get up to date.

Updated thread title, but it won't update it in the forum list... any tips for that?

[chispy]

Originally Posted by Ouzo

Wow, very interesting thread after summer holidays

Godda read all the info, and get up to date.

Updated thread title, but it won't update it in the forum list... any tips for that?

PM a Mod he should be able to do it for you .

[moheban79]

Wonder if 15.0.1582 brings trim support to z68? Anyone test the newer rom release for support?

[Fernando 1]

Originally Posted by moheban79

Wonder if 15.0.1582 brings trim support to z68? Anyone test the newer rom release for support?

Yes, I have tested it with my Z68 RAID0 system. Trim is definitively not (yet) working with Z68 chipset RAID0 systems.
You can see the screenshots with the Trim test results >here<.

[slickric21]

z77 incoming for me !!!

[chispy]

Fernando or anyone who can please help me , i have tried to Mod the latest Bios 0404 for my new Asus P8Z77-V LK but i keep getting a message while trying to flash the moded Bios that says " "Security Verification" warning , i dont have a ROG board on this Z77 chipset so cannot do the ROG flashback ( http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...BIOS-Flashback ) , this Mobo has only one Bios chip its not like my old Asus Rampage extreme x58 that had 2 Bios. So i have to be extra careful to not corrupt the Bios. I did succesfully Moded the Asus Rampage 3 extreme x58 Bios using your guide , i replace the OROM twice without any problem , its this UEFI Bios wich i dont understand so much , i have tried for 2 days and for the life of me i cannot mod this Bios correctly , can someone here with a good Soul help me and Mod this Bios 0404 for me with the latest intel Bios Raid OROM 11.5.0.1582

Motherboard is Asus P8Z77-V LK

Latest Bios 0404 here http://www.mediafire.com/?4h2kdhdnu5rkz56

Latest Official OROM http://www.mediafire.com/?jnvus6jdun15vas



Thank you so much in advanced , apretiate it.



Kind Regards Angelo.

[pimp_gimp]

Originally Posted by chispy

Fernando or anyone who can please help me , i have tried to Mod the latest Bios 0404 for my new Asus P8Z77-V LK but i keep getting a message while trying to flash the moded Bios that says " "Security Verification" warning , i dont have a ROG board on this Z77 chipset so cannot do the ROG flashback ( http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...BIOS-Flashback ) , this Mobo has only one Bios chip its not like my old Asus Rampage extreme x58 that had 2 Bios. So i have to be extra careful to not corrupt the Bios. I did succesfully Moded the Asus Rampage 3 extreme x58 Bios using your guide , i replace the OROM twice without any problem , its this UEFI Bios wich i dont understand so much , i have tried for 2 days and for the life of me i cannot mod this Bios correctly , can someone here with a good Soul help me and Mod this Bios 0404 for me with the latest intel Bios Raid OROM 11.5.0.1582

Motherboard is Asus P8Z77-V LK

Latest Bios 0404 here http://www.mediafire.com/?4h2kdhdnu5rkz56

Latest Official OROM http://www.mediafire.com/?jnvus6jdun15vas



Thank you so much in advanced , apretiate it.



Kind Regards Angelo.

Here you go, http://www.mediafire.com/?70yt5j1e8addizd

[chispy]

Originally Posted by pimp_gimp

Here you go, http://www.mediafire.com/?70yt5j1e8addizd

Thank you , apretiate it the help , but i have found out that its immposible to flash my mobo with a Moded Bios file the normal way using asus flash 2 utility in bios via USB , i keep getting the message " Validation file failed " , the only way in order to succesfully flash this Moded bios its using the Asus Flashback Button method in the special usb relating to this procedure. My mobo does not have the flashback button as it is the cheapest Z77 board in the Asus Z77 line , so its a no go for me. But i have already contacted Asus Technical support with an inquiry for a Bios update with the included Latest File Bios Raid Rom 11.5.0.1582. i will wait a couple of days if i dont get an answer or a bios update i will have to pull some strings at Asus Headquarters Taiwan to my team mate Andre Yang and Shamino Peter Tan , i dont like to bother the masters they are always busy , i will use it and bother them at last resort eventhought we are great friends and belong to the same overclocking hwbot team Team PURE , but i have stopped profesional overclocking for over a year now , so no more trowing money to the wind on my part

Kind regards: Angelo

[chispy]

I have just read the Great News we were all waiting for , at XS my own tread about Raid OROM 11.5 and Intel RST Driver 11.5 Findings the research and testing that a lot of us did paid off , Computurd who its an SSD reviewer and writter Full Time at the website http://thessdreview.com/ and Now he is also a reviewer and writter at the storage section of tweak town , a true expert and Guru of Storage and SSDs said " I have been informed by an industry contact that TRIM in RAID 0 is in fact working and that it has been confirmed , I will provide more detail once i can. I am getting further news on it tomorrow.

Im so waiting and loooking forward to his Report and News , and it feels great knowing that finally someone in the industry who ots a leading expert on this subject will post the good news himself , Yes Windows 7 and W8 Both OS are using TRIM if use with Intel Bios OROM 11.5 and Raid Driver RST 11.5 while in Raid0 usning Intel integrated Raid Controller !

[slickric21]

With z77 chipset only though still yeah ???

[chispy]

Originally Posted by slickric21

With z77 chipset only though still yeah ???

Im not 100% sure yet we are still testing and reaserching.

We are still waiting for the release of this information here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...84-RST-Drivers

Onced i have the full info i will update this tread with it ,

[chispy]

VOILA - Trim has been proven 100% accurate to work in a Raid0 arrays. It works in Both OS , W7 and W8 , you do need to be running the latest Bios Raid OROM 11.5 and Latest 11.5 Drivers in order to work + Z77 chipset for now ( Maybe in a future Bios Update for your chipset ( P67 , p68 , x79 ) they will be supported ), it just working for Z77 only at this moment , it wont be long before Intel disclose all the information , Happy Trimming Day guys

Conclusion on this article:



Conclusion:

RAID 0 TRIM has indeed arrived. It won’t be long before we start seeing board manufacturers serving up 11.5.0.1582 or higher OROMs with their BIOS’s. When they do you can be confident that whether you are running Windows 7 or 8 along with the correct chipset/s and IRST driver your RAID 0 array will have functioning TRIM. Intel has delivered on their promise to give us what we’ve all been waiting for RAID 0 TRIM. As of today there is NOTHING a single drive can do that a RAID 0 Array cannot do better. This day has been a long time coming and brings with it forth coming satisfaction for thousands of INTEL RAID 0 users. Awesome job INTEL, simply awesome!




Source and Full Article here ( A Good Read ) - http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?id=672

[chispy]

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And Its official !

Dan Snyder, PR Manager of Intel Corporation :


" “Trim on RAID 0 for SSDs is supported in the Intel RST driver versions 11.0 and newer. Currently available for the general public on Intel’s downloads site is RST driver version 11.2 which offers TRIM support on RAID 0 compatible with MS Windows 7 OS on Intel 7 series chipsets (earlier chipsets NOT supported). Intel is also working on a future release providing support for TRIM on RAID 0 on Microsoft Windows 8 OS for Intel 7 series chipsets. “


Source and more info: http://thessdreview.com/daily-news/l...-11-and-newer/

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13881/

[slickric21]

Cool.

Ive not had time to install my z77 mobo, but hopefully will get round to it 2mrw.

So this announcement means i can use the better performing 11.2 drivers then and still have TRIM in RAID 0 ??
Would i need OROM 11.2 or 11.5 then to go with RST 11.2 ??

(i found 11.2 drivers to be faster on reads by about 10% vs 11.5 series on my M4 array and z68)

[slickric21]

Guess Fernando has proven the answer to my query here

On z77 with OROM 11.2.0.1257 and RST 11.2.0.1006 TRIM is proven working.

Matches what Intel statement says.

[Fernando 1]

Originally Posted by slickric21

Guess Fernando has proven the answer to my query here
On z77 with OROM 11.2.0.1257 and RST 11.2.0.1006 TRIM is proven working.

That is correct.
With this combination OROM v11.2.0.1527/Driver v11.2.1006 I got the best performance with my 2x128 GB Crucial M4 SSD RAID0 system (look >here<) - plus TRIM support as extra bonus!

Matches what Intel statement says.

Indeed, but they deny the TRIM support on Windows 8, although it definitively works with Win8 too.

[slickric21]

I installed my z77 finally today and also using the 11.2.0.1527 OROM and 11.2.0.1006 RST and performance is better for reads on my 2x 64gb M4's.
Very happy TRIM is working on this combo as a bonus indeed !!

Thanks for testing it out, saved me having to use the 11.5 OROM & RST where my read speeds suffered a big hit !!