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Waterfox 14.0.1 released -
07-27-2012, 14:54
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
You can get it here 
http://waterfoxproject.org/downloads/
Official forums:
http://www.overclock.net/t/975626/wa...ox-64-bit/0_20
Release notes
Quote:
Jul 27, 2012 by MrAlex
After some delay, Waterfox 14 is finally available!
What's New in Waterfox?
Compiled with Profile-Guided Optimization
Working automatic updater
Digitally signed executables
Compiled with the following flags: /O3 /QaxAVX /arch:SSE3 /Qparallel /fp:precise /Oi- /w
A brand new installer
Support for Windows XP x64
What's New in Firefox?
Google searches now utilize HTTPS
The Awesome Bar now auto-completes typed URLs
Improved site identity manager, to prevent spoofing of an SSL connection with favicons
Pointer Lock API implemented
New API to prevent your display from sleeping
New text-transform and font-variant CSS improvements for Turkic languages and Greek
Various security fixes
GIF animation can gets stuck when src and image size are changed (743598)
OS X: nsCocoaWindow::ConstrainPosition uses wrong screen in multi-display setup (752149)
CSS :hover regression when an element's class name is set by Javascript (758885)
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edit: WF13 must be uninstalled or WF14 won't work.
Last edited by -Tj-; 07-28-2012 at 16:27.
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Ancient Guru
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07-27-2012, 15:40
| posts: 18,523 | Location: Hampshire UK
I had v13 installed and I still get that error
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Maha Guru
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07-27-2012, 15:44
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
First uninstall WF13, then uninstall WF14, now reinstall WF14 again.
btw dont forget to update Firefox.
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Ancient Guru
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07-27-2012, 15:55
| posts: 18,523 | Location: Hampshire UK
just tried that, still the same error.
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Maha Guru
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07-27-2012, 16:52
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
Do you have this installed >> Intel(R) C++ Redistributables for Windows* on Intel(R) 64
And you will have to uninstall everything if you want to be completely safe.
Uninstall firefox, uninstall any waterfox,
maybe delete personal data, but then you will have to rearrange bookmarks (export/import bookmarks), download addons, skins, re-enter passwords > try print screen for current saved passwords..
Reinstall Firefox, then Waterfox (maybe try it 2x in a row).
or you can ask here @ official WF forum feedback
http://www.overclock.net/t/975626/wa...64-bit/2960_20
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Ancient Guru
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07-27-2012, 17:10
| posts: 18,523 | Location: Hampshire UK
cheers mate, uninstalled everything and cleared the data, then reinstalled and now it's working thanks.
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Maha Guru
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07-27-2012, 19:24
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
Quote:
Originally Posted by eclap
cheers mate, uninstalled everything and cleared the data, then reinstalled and now it's working  thanks.
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Cool, np
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07-27-2012, 23:45
| posts: 13,498 | Location: US East Coast
What exactly has been changed to make it worth upgrading??? I'm still using WF12....
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Maha Guru
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07-28-2012, 00:29
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
Quote:
Originally Posted by sykozis
What exactly has been changed to make it worth upgrading??? I'm still using WF12....
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Ups, here are the release notes. 
Click to show spoiler
Quote:
Jul 27, 2012 by MrAlex
After some delay, Waterfox 14 is finally available!
What's New in Waterfox?
Compiled with Profile-Guided Optimization
Working automatic updater
Digitally signed executables
Compiled with the following flags: /O3 /QaxAVX /arch:SSE3 /Qparallel /fp:precise /Oi- /w
A brand new installer
Support for Windows XP x64
What's New in Firefox?
Google searches now utilize HTTPS
The Awesome Bar now auto-completes typed URLs
Improved site identity manager, to prevent spoofing of an SSL connection with favicons
Pointer Lock API implemented
New API to prevent your display from sleeping
New text-transform and font-variant CSS improvements for Turkic languages and Greek
Various security fixes
GIF animation can gets stuck when src and image size are changed (743598)
OS X: nsCocoaWindow::ConstrainPosition uses wrong screen in multi-display setup (752149)
CSS :hover regression when an element's class name is set by Javascript (758885)
Waterfox 13 Available
Jun 4, 2012 by MrAlex
Hello everyone! Waterfox 13 is now available for download and it brings a great new deal to the table, here's what you'll find in the latest version:
If you get any missing .dll's then install the following:
Intel Redistributable Files
Microsoft Redistributable Files
What's New in Waterfox 13?
Compiled with Intel's C++ Compiler using /O3 /QaxAVX /arch:SSE3 /Qparallel /w
Implemented Intel's LibM (Math Library)
Implemented SSE3 support for all processors and AVX for Intel Sandy Bridge and newer processors
Reverted back to jemalloc from tcmalloc in preview releases due to a problem occuring
Disabled auto-updates, own method will be implemented in Waterfox.Next
Thanks for xunxun1982 for the WebGL crash fix
What's new in Firefox 13?
When opening a new tab, users are now presented with their most visited pages
The default home page now has quicker access to bookmarks, history, settings, and more
SPDY protocol now enabled by default for faster browsing on supported sites
Restored background tabs are not loaded by default for faster startup
Smooth scrolling is now enabled by default
72 total improvements to Page Inspector, HTML panel, Style Inspector, Scratchpad and Style Editor
The column-fill CSS property has been implemented
Experimental support for ECMAScript 6 Map and Set objects has been implemented
Support for the CSS3 background-position property extended syntax has been added
The :invalidpseudo-class can now be applied to the
element
The CSS turn <angle> unit is now supported
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Overall it will be a little quicker/snappier compared to WF12.
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07-28-2012, 06:43
| posts: 20,490 | Location: Netherlands
hmm ive tried waterfox, but it seems to have a FRAPS bug, counter showing constantly in one corner of the browser.
some plugins addons are also not working (was to be expected though).
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07-28-2012, 10:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteLightning
hmm ive tried waterfox, but it seems to have a FRAPS bug, counter showing constantly in one corner of the browser.
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That's probably because you haven't excluded Waterfox on Fraps.
Any app that uses hardware-acceleration to render its windows' content would show the FPS counter if Fraps is still running.
Try running IE9; most likely it'd also display the FPS counter.
For plugins, you need to get its 64-bit version, but for addons it's weird if it doesn't work on Waterfox.
Waterfox uses the same code base as Firefox, just (mainly) differs on how it's being compiled.

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07-28-2012, 10:48
| posts: 20,490 | Location: Netherlands
Quote:
Originally Posted by k1net1cs
That's probably because you haven't excluded Waterfox on Fraps.
Any app that uses hardware-acceleration to render its windows' content would show the FPS counter if Fraps is still running.
Try running IE9; most likely it'd also display the FPS counter.
For plugins, you need to get its 64-bit version, but for addons it's weird if it doesn't work on Waterfox.
Waterfox uses the same code base as Firefox, just (mainly) differs on how it's being compiled.
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excluded from fraps ? how can you exclude programs from fraps ? IE9 also works fine, just like firefox.
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07-28-2012, 13:09
| posts: 2,374 | Location: Shropshire, UK
Just trying WF for the first time. Is it faster?
I also noticed the plugins that were in FF have vanished (what ever they were) and only shows up Java, Silverlight and Flash now.
Which brings me to the final issue. I thought I would find which plugins were missing by loading up FF and having a look. I can't. I double click FF and Waterfox loads up. FF is still installed but not accessible. Not sure why and not sure if I should uninstall FF...
Last edited by HonoredShadow; 07-28-2012 at 13:12.
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Ancient Guru
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07-28-2012, 14:38
| posts: 13,498 | Location: US East Coast
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteLightning
hmm ive tried waterfox, but it seems to have a FRAPS bug, counter showing constantly in one corner of the browser.
some plugins addons are also not working (was to be expected though).
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I've never had that issue.... All my addons work and Fraps never displays anything when I open WF...
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Maha Guru
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07-28-2012, 15:31
| posts: 1,696 | Location: in a house
it would run right on mine. it would flash and flicker. I turned off hardware acceleration and it works now...might be conflicting with my theme with windowblinds...
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Ancient Guru
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07-28-2012, 15:33
| posts: 20,490 | Location: Netherlands
Quote:
Originally Posted by sykozis
I've never had that issue.... All my addons work and Fraps never displays anything when I open WF...
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thats cool, here have a cake
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Maha Guru
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07-28-2012, 15:48
| posts: 1,696 | Location: in a house
mmmmmm cake
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Maha Guru
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07-28-2012, 16:22
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
Quote:
Originally Posted by HonoredShadow
Just trying WF for the first time. Is it faster?
I also noticed the plugins that were in FF have vanished (what ever they were) and only shows up Java, Silverlight and Flash now.
Which brings me to the final issue. I thought I would find which plugins were missing by loading up FF and having a look. I can't. I double click FF and Waterfox loads up. FF is still installed but not accessible. Not sure why and not sure if I should uninstall FF...
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Close all WF tabs/windows then open FF.
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hm all 8 addons work here, but i had a small issue with adblock plus icon, re-enabling it fixed it.
The only bug for me is missing right-click task menu, its ok in FF14.
MrAlex is already working on a fix. 
btw this new autoupdate feature can be a bit annoying, you can disable it in windows task scheduler.
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Ancient Guru
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07-28-2012, 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteLightning
excluded from fraps ? how can you exclude programs from fraps ? IE9 also works fine, just like firefox.
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Dunno, it's been awhile since I last use Fraps and it's possible to exclude programs with Afterburner's OSD, so I thought that's kinda standard for programs with application detection. =b
Default IE9 is 32-bit, same as Firefox.
You should try the 64-bit one from Start menu if you want to check things out.

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07-30-2012, 00:34
| posts: 2,422 | Location: Downtown ✈
Ok i spotted a fix for jumplist
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Make another copy of waterfox.exe and rename it to firefox.exe. This fixed the blank icon and the jumplist for me.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/975626/wa...#post_17809254
And there is a small update to fix autoupdater; just run waterfox update tool.
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07-30-2012, 01:22
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it's so faster...than firefox...great...x64 and flash is working...epic win...!!!
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07-31-2012, 04:12
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Yep, I'm def diggin it. Awesome browser.
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Maha Guru
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07-31-2012, 08:06
| posts: 1,699 | Location: U.K
Can this and Firefox co exist peacefully on the same machine ??
I'd like to try it, but have a load of saved passwords, a tweaked config, and hundreds of bookmarks i dont want to lose in Firefox.
Is their maybe a portable version of Waterfox ?
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Maha Guru
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07-31-2012, 08:14
| posts: 2,374 | Location: Shropshire, UK
It should work. Mine does.
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07-31-2012, 08:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slickric21
Can this and Firefox co exist peacefully on the same machine ??
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Yes, as long as you don't try to run them at the same time since they both use the same exact profile.
Whatever it was on your Firefox profile will be available on Waterfox, and vice versa.

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