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Question Which processor is faster? - 07-13-2012, 04:19 | posts: 270 | Location: Kedah, Malaysia

which is faster...?

AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition 2.6Ghz
vs
AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition 2.8Ghz


the differences is just first model of Phenom with 4 cores and 2nd generation of Phenom with 3 cores plus their clock frequencies...
   
 
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Default 07-13-2012, 05:22 | posts: 18,762 | Location: Toronto, Canada

Phenom II is remarkably faster than Phenom I.

None of them are available on the market anymore though.

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Default 07-13-2012, 05:32 | posts: 270 | Location: Kedah, Malaysia

I found them being sold as used CPU, I wanna to used it on my old board...

Phenom 9950 have 2M L2 size and 2M in L3 vs the Phenom II 720 have 1.5 L2 size but 6M in L3... thus this make Phenom II 720 faster?
   
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Phenom II is remarkably faster than Phenom

deltatux
this answers your question
   
 
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Default 07-13-2012, 12:49 | posts: 2,982 | Location: Not Far North Enough (England)

The Phenom II is newer and on a smaller process than the Phenom I. This means it will run cooler and faster per clock than the older one, and is probably faster overall despite having fewer cores, though the slightly higher clock speed will help. More cache in the newer CPU also helps, plus you might be able to unlock the 4th, disabled core, depending on your board. The Phenom I's were known for running a little on the toasty side as well. All in all, go for the Phenom II, as deltatux said.
   
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Default 07-13-2012, 13:26 | posts: 20,446 | Location: NZ

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I found them being sold as used CPU, I wanna to used it on my old board...

Phenom 9950 have 2M L2 size and 2M in L3 vs the Phenom II 720 have 1.5 L2 size but 6M in L3... thus this make Phenom II 720 faster?
L2 cache is 512kb per core, so really they both have the same amount.

Fwiw the 9950 has an HT link speed of 1800mhz and only supports 1066 DDR2, whereas the AM3 X3 720 HT link is 2000mhz and is compatible with DDR2/DDR3 up to 1600mhz (officially).
   
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Default 07-13-2012, 16:12 | posts: 270 | Location: Kedah, Malaysia

ok then...
I understand already what it means, thank you guys
deltatux, enticles, BLEH! and Pill Monster
   
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Default 07-14-2012, 02:29 | posts: 119 | Location: at Bill Gates Dog House

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

the 9950 is faster,
but if you want overclock the x3 is the better choice
The 720 if nice to unlock if you have a AMD Mainboard with 785 Chip or higher.

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Which processor is faster?

Be careful when asking this question, only ask it when AMD users are out playing, look what happened to me > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 Basically i got Trolled to death.
   
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Default 07-18-2012, 08:50 | posts: 6,984 | Location: Toledo, Ohio

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Which processor is faster?

Be careful when asking this question, only ask it when AMD users are out playing, look what happened to me > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 Basically i got Trolled to death.
Because you ignored every bit of advice given to you. Don't act like you didn't get any help.
   
 
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Default 07-18-2012, 08:58 | posts: 1,427

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Which processor is faster?

Be careful when asking this question, only ask it when AMD users are out playing, look what happened to me > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 Basically i got Trolled to death.
How is getting proper advice being trolled to death?
Everyone was trying to get you the best performance for what you're paying, which you ignored.
   
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Default 07-18-2012, 09:51 | posts: 14,685 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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Which processor is faster?

Be careful when asking this question, only ask it when AMD users are out playing, look what happened to me > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 Basically i got Trolled to death.
you just found 1 random review that could not get a 6870x2 to work on Sandy Bridge? did you at least get conformation on this from at least 1 more source? You were not trolled you were given sound advice in that thread.
   
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Default 07-18-2012, 11:25 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

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Which processor is faster?

Be careful when asking this question, only ask it when AMD users are out playing, look what happened to me > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 Basically i got Trolled to death.
Agian this ^

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Default 07-18-2012, 13:25 | posts: 14,685 | Location: New Jersey, USA

Del Boy please do not pm me
   
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Default 07-18-2012, 13:31 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

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which is faster...?

AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition 2.6Ghz
vs
AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition 2.8Ghz


the differences is just first model of Phenom with 4 cores and 2nd generation of Phenom with 3 cores plus their clock frequencies...
Phenom II

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Del Boy please do not pm me
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I asked u nicely not to pm me, so stop the ****. K
   
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Welcome to the ignore list troll
   
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Default 07-21-2012, 15:57 | posts: 270 | Location: Kedah, Malaysia

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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

the 9950 is faster,
but if you want overclock the x3 is the better choice
The 720 if nice to unlock if you have a AMD Mainboard with 785 Chip or higher.
there's lot of info's the link... thanks
   
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Default 07-21-2012, 18:09 | posts: 13,482 | Location: US East Coast

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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

the 9950 is faster,
but if you want overclock the x3 is the better choice
The 720 if nice to unlock if you have a AMD Mainboard with 785 Chip or higher.
Those scores are quite a bit misleading...you need the actual test results, not just a final "score" from a synthetic benchmark.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/21?vs=83

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Which processor is faster?

Be careful when asking this question, only ask it when AMD users are out playing, look what happened to me > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 Basically i got Trolled to death.
You didn't get trolled....you were given facts that you didn't like....all that happened.


   
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You didn't get trolled....you were given facts that you didn't like....all that happened.
If I were you I'd just not bother responding to him. He's an obvious troll, so far so that he quotes other posters he dislikes in other threads and alters what they've said into ridiculous, childish bullcrap. Not worth anyones time.
   
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Default 07-21-2012, 19:18 | posts: 14,685 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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Those scores are quite a bit misleading...you need the actual test results, not just a final "score" from a synthetic benchmark.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/21?vs=83



You didn't get trolled....you were given facts that you didn't like....all that happened.
syk bro please do not quote that waste, he is on ignore due to repeated pms to me. I did not read any of his messages as I due not pm with trolls
   
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Default 07-21-2012, 19:42 | posts: 6,984 | Location: Toledo, Ohio

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syk bro please do not quote that waste, he is on ignore due to repeated pms to me. I did not read any of his messages as I due not pm with trolls
He sent me a PM too, lol.
   
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Default 07-22-2012, 08:40 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

Just give it up guys, none of my posts where directed at you, but you take it off your own backs to reply to them in the rudest way possible, i pm'ed you you tree guys after you attacked my post to the op'er because posting here is not the place for that.
when i want your opinion i will ask you directly, otherwise butt out, for the record this what the pm said >


"Before you comment anymore, please read my original post, it refers to AMD chips only, and also after saying that i already have an AMD mobo > http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=363969 "


It simply asks which is better for gaming 1100t or fx8120, i didn't ask for Intel advise, i asked for thoughts that would help me make my mind up, this is what happens when people fail to read the original post on threads.

So, if you refuse to read and understand what it says then that is childish, to ignore it and carry on bashing I'm afraid is trolling.

so, when someone asks about which is best 1100t or fx8120 or in the case of this thread AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition or AMD Phenom II X3
what would your answer be ?

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Default 07-22-2012, 11:15 | posts: 1,242 | Location: Melbourne, FL

The 1100T is better... many people benched them against each other when they came out...

The 8120 scores less and it runs hotter and uses more power..

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...formance-Guide
   
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Default 07-22-2012, 12:01 | posts: 1,090 | Location: New Zealand

My god, Del Boy..

I'm sorry man but after all the reading from your closed thread, the decision you made, the results you've now recieved...

from one AMD user to another - dude that was a bad choice, im struggling as to why you created the thread in the first place if you were just going to dismiss any facts given to you which would have steered you towards a true upgrade other than a side grade. I know it must leave a bitter taste in your mouth and your wallet. Hate to say it bro - but they told you so, tried to warn you - but hey ultimately it was your decision. Hopefully next time you might consider the information given to ensure you get a quality upgrade in future.

PS: dual gpu amd cards dont work with intel chipsets LOL

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In regard to this thread the PII would get my vote, and as Del Boy now knows. here's another vote for 1100T over the 8120 - as the 8120 is utter crap when compared to any Quad PII, or Intel Q9 series cpu.

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