Some Advice!

up2nogooduk · **Some Advice! -** 07-04-2012, 18:48 | posts: 187 | Location: England

Hi guys.

I went from a 6950 xfire, then to a single 6950, then i tried the Gigabyte Nvidia HD 670 Windforce 3X. but i sent it back as for 1 i just couldn't get all aa working in rfactor.(no problems with AMD cards) and it stuttered in games to much!

Now i'm on a Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7970 Windforce 3X.
I've been trying BF3. in game i have everything maxed out, 1920x1200, but no blur!
In the CCC Control i have, as seen below!
Does everything look ok there?

It just don't feel butter smooth like i thought it would! if i turn 4xaa off in game, it helps abit.
I uninstalled the drivers, then rebooted in safe mode, run Driver Sweeper, rebooted, installed the drivers, rebooted.
I have tried 12.6/12.7 drivers. still the same. (not sure which would be better) do you think i'll have to reformat the drive and start over?
Some advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Spec

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K @4.3

Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H Intel Z77

Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 16GB

Graphics Card(s)
7970 Windforce 3X

Sound Card
on board

Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree 27"

Screen Resolution
1920x1200

Hard Drives
Crucial RealSSD M4 256GB

PSU
XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver'

elpsychodiablo · 07-04-2012, 20:21 | posts: 119 | Location: at Bill Gates Dog House

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Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

Hi guys.
... and it stuttered in games to much!

Pill Monster · 07-04-2012, 20:26 | posts: 20,456 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

Hi guys.

I went from a 6950 xfire, then to a single 6950, then i tried the Gigabyte Nvidia HD 670 Windforce 3X. but i sent it back as for 1 i just couldn't get all aa working in rfactor.(no problems with AMD cards) and it stuttered in games to much!

Now i'm on a Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7970 Windforce 3X.
I've been trying BF3. in game i have everything maxed out, 1920x1200, but no blur!
In the CCC Control i have, as seen below!
Does everything look ok there?

It just don't feel butter smooth like i thought it would! if i turn 4xaa off in game, it helps abit.
I uninstalled the drivers, then rebooted in safe mode, run Driver Sweeper, rebooted, installed the drivers, rebooted.
I have tried 12.6/12.7 drivers. still the same. (not sure which would be better) do you think i'll have to reformat the drive and start over?
Some advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers

What are you asking?

up2nogooduk · 07-04-2012, 20:42 | posts: 187 | Location: England

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Originally Posted by elpsychodiablo

Why would i lie about that, it's very common, google it

If u dont have any help then dont reply plz

P.s dont reply to this thanks

up2nogooduk · 07-04-2012, 20:45 | posts: 187 | Location: England

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pill Monster

What are you asking?

Just want to know why isn't it as smooth as i thought it would be?
Should i re format see i've had nvidia card in there

Cheers Pill

Pill Monster · 07-04-2012, 20:54 | posts: 20,456 | Location: NZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

Just want to know why isn't it as smooth as i thought it would be?
Should i re format see i've had nvidia card in there

Cheers Pill

Well saying "it's not smooth" doesn't really help much...is it stuttering/fps drops/lag you're describing or....?

With 6GB ram it's possible the PF is being used which causes stutter...BF3 runs best with 8GB ram....is it only BF3 that's affected?

I wouldn't reinstall the OS either, a good clean out with DS or whatever should be enough.

up2nogooduk · 07-04-2012, 21:27 | posts: 187 | Location: England

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Well saying "it's not smooth" doesn't really help much...is it stuttering/fps drops/lag you're describing or....?

With 6GB ram it's possible the PF is being used which causes stutter...BF3 runs best with 8GB ram....is it only BF3 that's affected?

I wouldn't reinstall the OS either, a good clean out with DS or whatever should be enough.

The game play don't feel smooth! it's like a slow down of frame movement.
I have 16GB of ram

Not sure what the problem could be then, i really thought that card would be much better. happends in other games abit also.

Cheers anyways

airbud7 · *Last edited by airbud7; 07-04-2012 at 22:27.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

The game play don't feel smooth! it's like a slow down of frame movement.
I have 16GB of ram

Not sure what the problem could be then, i really thought that card would be much better. happends in other games abit also.

Cheers anyways

What's your Internet Speed?....>http://www.speedtest.net/

The Goose · *Last edited by The Goose; 07-04-2012 at 22:50.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Well saying "it's not smooth" doesn't really help much...is it stuttering/fps drops/lag you're describing or....?

With 6GB ram it's possible the PF is being used which causes stutter...BF3 runs best with 8GB ram....is it only BF3 that's affected?

I wouldn't reinstall the OS either, a good clean out with DS or whatever should be enough.

^^^^^this^^^^^

also are you playing single or multi player,if your mouse movement is really fast you could lower sensitivity abit

up2nogooduk · 07-04-2012, 23:00 | posts: 187 | Location: England

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Originally Posted by airbud7

What's your Internet Speed?....>http://www.speedtest.net/

Download speed 12.72mbps. upload 0.85mbps. ping 24.
I'm sure it's not that

up2nogooduk · 07-04-2012, 23:02 | posts: 187 | Location: England

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Originally Posted by The Goose

^^^^^this^^^^^

also are you playing single or multi player,if your mouse movement is really fast you could lower sensitivity abit

i have 16gb mate..
The mouse is fine, just the movement of moving around isn't as smooth as it should be

Only play multi player

killer_939 · 07-04-2012, 23:14 | posts: 2,554 | Location: Australia

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Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

i have 16gb mate..
The mouse is fine, just the movement of moving around isn't as smooth as it should be

Update your specs then. It's kind of important.

up2nogooduk · 07-04-2012, 23:47 | posts: 187 | Location: England

if u guys read in the first post your see my spec lol
anyway thanks for the help.

i just have to reformat and go from there.
Spec

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K @4.3

Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H Intel Z77

Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 16GB

Graphics Card(s)
7970 Windforce 3X

Sound Card
on board

Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree 27"

Screen Resolution
1920x1200

Hard Drives
Crucial RealSSD M4 256GB

PSU
XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver'

Agent-A01 · 07-05-2012, 00:03 | posts: 5,621 | Location: USA

> gets rid of 6950 cf
> installs GTX 670 over amd installed OS
> complaints about stuttering.(no duh)
> gets 7970.. not pure smooth, installs over nvidia drivers.
i loled.

up2nogooduk · 07-05-2012, 00:07 | posts: 187 | Location: England

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent-A01

> gets rid of 6950 cf
> installs GTX 670 over amd installed OS
> complaints about stuttering.(no duh)
> gets 7970.. not pure smooth, installs over nvidia drivers.
i loled.

mate what u talking about lol
i uninstalled the nvidia driver blimy im not that thick!!!!!!!!!
what difference would it make installs GTX 670 over amd installed OS ?
i have never had an issuie.. most say it be fine, u dont seem to think so
so u think each time u change from amd to nvidia vise versa, u have to do new os install ?

Agent-A01 · 07-05-2012, 01:38 | posts: 5,621 | Location: USA

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Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

each time u change from amd to nvidia vise versa, u have to do new os install ?

exactly. uninstalling the driver still leaves remnants behind. which causes conflicts..

up2nogooduk · 07-05-2012, 09:20 | posts: 187 | Location: England

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Originally Posted by Agent-A01

exactly. uninstalling the driver still leaves remnants behind. which causes conflicts..

Ok I start over and see if it sorts it. I just tried C.A.R.S and thats so slow.
Is it best to install service pack when updating my os 7 64bit.

Cheers.

Pill Monster · 07-05-2012, 09:21 | posts: 20,456 | Location: NZ

Do you have HT turned on?

up2nogooduk · 07-05-2012, 09:24 | posts: 187 | Location: England

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Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Do you have HT turned on?

The i5 3570k don't have HT.

Agent-A01 · 07-05-2012, 14:57 | posts: 5,621 | Location: USA

Quote:

Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

Ok I start over and see if it sorts it. I just tried C.A.R.S and thats so slow.
Is it best to install service pack when updating my os 7 64bit.

Cheers.

yes. i would download the latest service pack OS iso from microsoft. saves you a lot of time

tweakpower · 07-05-2012, 21:42 | posts: 932 | Location: Serbia

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Originally Posted by Agent-A01

exactly. uninstalling the driver still leaves remnants behind. which causes conflicts..

It can cause conflicts

. But most of the time do not cause anything.

On topic, when i see Gigabyte in combination with AMD, i have very bad habit to blame GB (no matter if is motherboard or GPU involved) because in one decade i didn't used PC with GB motherboard/GPU that was working as it should, and i always repeat that to help people, not to flame on GB.

airbud7 · 07-06-2012, 01:02 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Evans Ga,USA

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Originally Posted by Agent-A01

yes. i would download the latest service pack OS iso from microsoft. saves you a lot of time

Yes^ It saves alot of time...

slickric21 · 07-06-2012, 08:37 | posts: 1,680 | Location: U.K

OP its probably to to with your FlipQueue Size (RenderAhead) and/or Triple Buffering Setting, and/or framerate not being limited.

When I had my 7970 the smoothest gameplay for me was.....

Vsync OFF both ingame and driver

RenderAhead 0 - in game config
TripleBuffering 0- in game config
Limit frames to 59fps (for 60hz screen) - in game config
eg

Quote:

RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 0
RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 0
GameTime.MaxVariableFps 59.00

Then in RadeonPro force Flipqueue 0 and Triplebuffering ON (yes TB on with no vsync, feels lovely and smooth when used in combination with these described settings)

If you dont want to mess with FlipQueue sizes/Triplebuffering, just try the framerate limit first off on its own and see how it is, bet that alone makes it feel smoother.

up2nogooduk · 07-08-2012, 18:42 | posts: 187 | Location: England

Quote:

Originally Posted by slickric21

OP its probably to to with your FlipQueue Size (RenderAhead) and/or Triple Buffering Setting, and/or framerate not being limited.

When I had my 7970 the smoothest gameplay for me was.....

Vsync OFF both ingame and driver

RenderAhead 0 - in game config
TripleBuffering 0- in game config
Limit frames to 59fps (for 60hz screen) - in game config
eg

Then in RadeonPro force Flipqueue 0 and Triplebuffering ON (yes TB on with no vsync, feels lovely and smooth when used in combination with these described settings)

If you dont want to mess with FlipQueue sizes/Triplebuffering, just try the framerate limit first off on its own and see how it is, bet that alone makes it feel smoother.

Hi,

Vsync OFF gives me tearing, which i hate

How do i turn RenderAhead/ TripleBuffering to 0- in game config?

In game won't allow me to Limit frames to 59fps on my for 60hz screen)
Is there another way?

I did notice in the Catalyst control setting, if i have Anti-Aliasing Mode set to Super- sample AA, it kill my frame rate! has to be set to Multi-Sample AA. But i get more jaggie lines in BF3.

Cheers

slickric21 · 07-09-2012, 08:08 | posts: 1,680 | Location: U.K

Quote:

Originally Posted by up2nogooduk

Hi,

Vsync OFF gives me tearing, which i hate

How do i turn RenderAhead/ TripleBuffering to 0- in game config?

In game won't allow me to Limit frames to 59fps on my for 60hz screen)
Is there another way?

I did notice in the Catalyst control setting, if i have Anti-Aliasing Mode set to Super- sample AA, it kill my frame rate! has to be set to Multi-Sample AA. But i get more jaggie lines in BF3.

Cheers

Framelimit of 59 with Triplebuffering forced through RadeonPro will eliminate 99% of tearing.

Ive already given you the commands to do what I suggested.

In your BF3 game folder create a user.cfg file.
Put the following in in.

Quote:

RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 0
RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 0
GameTime.MaxVariableFps 59.00

(you may need to create it with notepad then save it as user.cfg)

Then in RadeonPro set up a profile for BF3, set FlipQueue to 0 and then in Tweaks section, tick enable Triplebuffering.
Dont enable Vsync ingame or in RadeonPro.

Try it and see how smooth it is !!!