IGN: Why Do People 'Hate' EA? - Seriously? What is that all about? We asked EA. - Page 4

Corrupt^ · 06-19-2012, 09:27 | posts: 4,830 | Location: Belgium

His video kind of reminded me of 2 things:

- Hating EA (but not their games) for their business practices
- Hating Activision for ruining the FPS franchise in general with whatever CoD came after MW1 (now every shooters wants to be CoD ffs)

Rifle_Grunt · 06-19-2012, 17:06 | posts: 2,453 | Location: James Cook Hospital, Middlesbrough

Im surprised this video has not appeared here- I think this nicely illustrates all the reasons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ

Icanium · 06-20-2012, 03:28 | posts: 869 | Location: Detroit,MI.USA

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Forget activations or malicious DRM - every game on GOG.com is 100% DRM-free
You buy it. You own it. 100% DRM-free.
DRM, also called copy protection, tries to control you and your games. We don’t believe in that - all of the games on GOG.com come without any DRM at all!

To my horror I discovered that the DRM free game i purchased required an EA/Origin account. (Reqiurement, acceptance of EULA)
My response to GOG support,

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When I selected the free game Ultima, The Savavge Empire I failed to see that it required the DRM EA/Origin. Can someone tell me how to unpurchase this game and remove it from my account. If GOG is going to sell or giveaway games with DRM, then they should be filtered to a DRM games section.
My fault, but I was not expecting to find DRM games here.

lucidus · 06-20-2012, 03:40 | posts: 3,526 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by Icanium

To my horror I discovered that the DRM free game i purchased required an EA/Origin account. (Reqiurement, acceptance of EULA)
My response to GOG support,

I looked that game up on wiki, released in 1990 and requires Origin?! Dafuq?

It's no better than bundling Half Life 1 with steam but still .. annoying!

Icanium · *Last edited by Icanium; 06-20-2012 at 04:10.*

Source GOG

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Forget activations or malicious DRM - every game on GOG.com is 100% DRM-free You buy it. You own it. 100% DRM-free.
DRM, also called copy protection, tries to control you and your games. We don’t believe in that - all of the games on GOG.com come without any DRM at all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucidus

I looked that game up on wiki, released in 1990 and requires Origin?! Dafuq?

It's no better than bundling Half Life 1 with steam but still .. annoying!

GOG advertises their games as 100% DRM Free. So not the same as Half Life and Steam. The issue is not that the game requires EA/Origin, but that all GOG games are 100% DRM Free

Damien_Azreal · 06-20-2012, 04:18 | posts: 3,492 | Location: Kansas, USA

You know, I wish I could have a popular internet site post supportive articles to defend me when people said bad things about me.

Idiots.

Icanium · 06-20-2012, 04:45 | posts: 869 | Location: Detroit,MI.USA

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

You know, I wish I could have a popular internet site post supportive articles to defend me when people said bad things about me.
Idiots.

My fellow guru, you are confusing bad with the truth. Sometimes the truth is really bad.

Damien_Azreal · 06-20-2012, 05:03 | posts: 3,492 | Location: Kansas, USA

I'm not confused.

The majority of the times the truth is bad. Even more so when talking about EA though....

lucidus · 06-20-2012, 05:17 | posts: 3,526 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

You know, I wish I could have a popular internet site post supportive articles to defend me when people said bad things about me.

Idiots.

Those sites will holla for a dolla!

Icanium · 06-20-2012, 05:25 | posts: 869 | Location: Detroit,MI.USA

Okay, then I was confused. What popular site were you referring too that was posting supporting articles when bad things were said?

lucidus · 06-20-2012, 05:54 | posts: 3,526 | Location: UAE

I think he's referring to the article by IGN in the OP

scaredchimp · 06-20-2012, 20:21 | posts: 25 | Location: Birmingham, UK

I think http://uk.gamespot.com/news/microtra...ays-ea-6383445

adds more fuel, EA's decisions which make them more hated

SerotoNiN · 06-20-2012, 20:29 | posts: 631 | Location: Chicago

Can't say I love or hate EA. They're just another company to me. Not much they've done really appeals to me game-wise.

My only complaint with them is that they quit making Madden on PC. And even 2006 through 2008 versions of Madden that they did put on PC were ps2 versions with the insanely dated engine vs. the ps3/360. So they complain no one was buying it when they were putting out half-assed insanely dated versions.

I wish they'd release it again on PC, but with the current-gen engine.

Smart business for sony/ms though as the single reason I bothered buying a ps3 was for Madden. Sure I've come to love other titles on PS3 but was PC-only until Madden was taken away from the PC market.

lucidus · 06-20-2012, 20:57 | posts: 3,526 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by scaredchimp

I think http://uk.gamespot.com/news/microtra...ays-ea-6383445

adds more fuel, EA's decisions which make them more hated

Well, they're right. Why hate them for it? Seen the mobile games market lately? Even paid games have in app purchases. It's pathetic! I only stick to the "apps gone free" list for that reason.

rogue221979 · 06-21-2012, 01:14 | posts: 477 | Location: Oxford maine

Do people not read gaming reviews anymore?

I don't buy a single game without reading a review and seeing what to expect. Since the days of gamepro magazine started, hasn't let me down yet. Atleased it gives me a heads up on what to expect, some are bias but alot give it too you hands down if you know where to read.

I just see alot of people saying they aren't buying from this company and that company anymore, but in another thread they post "I just got BF3 or MW3, etc and I'm pissed it sucks, bla bla"

Guys get over it already. No different than listening to microsoft hate threads yet everyone has a preview of W8 running on there PCs.

Sheesh!

Gaizokubanou · 06-21-2012, 01:53 | posts: 996

It's not just reviews anymore. Now with the explosion of sites like youtube, you can easily find a good overview of almost any games' gameplay.

DesGaizu · 06-21-2012, 11:52 | posts: 1,996 | Location: UK

I find watching a play though on youtube a much better way to judge a game these days than reading a review on any of the gaming sites.

Passion Fruit · 06-21-2012, 13:23 | posts: 5,848 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

One thing everyone seems to have missed.

Quality control, something that is non existent at EA.

Bugs, glitches, the need for patches, missing content - game after game after game...

Redemption80 · *Last edited by Redemption80; 06-21-2012 at 13:26.*

Bugs and glitches affect every game on the PC, there isn't a developer/publisher around that doesn't suffer from this, no idea how anyone can say this is an EA exclusive issue.

I used to hate EA, looking back sure i'm not even sure why exactly, think it is the same reason i used to hate Apple in that it was the done thing to do if you owned a PC, and not because of any factual reason.

Nowadays i have no issue with them, have yet to have a bad experience with them so have no reason to hate them, and no other publisher can match the variety of games they bring out.
They are also pushing more high end tech into PC games than any other publisher out there, which is something that appeals to the techie, graphic whore side of me.

Activision/Blizzard on the other hand is a different story, can't stand them.
Little variety in their IP's, everything revolves around MP or being online, dated tech and inflated prices that takes years to go down.

k1net1cs · 06-21-2012, 13:25 | posts: 3,364

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Originally Posted by Icanium

To my horror I discovered that the DRM free game i purchased required an EA/Origin account. (Reqiurement, acceptance of EULA)
My response to GOG support,

Either that's quite some FUD you have there, or you're just misunderstanding something.

It only requires you to accept EA/Origin's EULA (a PDF file you can choose to read or not) upon installing.
It doesn't have DRM whatsoever and does not require an EA/Origin account, much less installing Origin.

Seriously, how do you put DRM on DOSBox?

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Originally Posted by lucidus

I looked that game up on wiki, released in 1990 and requires Origin?! Dafuq?

It's no better than bundling Half Life 1 with steam but still .. annoying!

Nope, the game doesn't have any DRM.
I just installed it.

Passion Fruit · 06-22-2012, 02:34 | posts: 5,848 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

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Originally Posted by Redemption80

Bugs and glitches affect every game on the PC,

Yes, because EA only make games for PC...

Damien_Azreal · 06-22-2012, 05:06 | posts: 3,492 | Location: Kansas, USA

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Originally Posted by Redemption80

Bugs and glitches affect every game on the PC, there isn't a developer/publisher around that doesn't suffer from this, no idea how anyone can say this is an EA exclusive issue.

I don't think anyone is saying they are exclusive to EA titles, just that EA's post-release support for a lot of their PC titles go without updates or fixes.

Raiga · 06-22-2012, 05:43 | posts: 976

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Originally Posted by Icanium

Quote:

Forget activations or malicious DRM - every game on GOG.com is 100% DRM-free
You buy it. You own it. 100% DRM-free.
DRM, also called copy protection, tries to control you and your games. We don’t believe in that - all of the games on GOG.com come without any DRM at all!

To my horror I discovered that the DRM free game i purchased required an EA/Origin account. (Reqiurement, acceptance of EULA)
My response to GOG support

Quote:

When I selected the free game Ultima, The Savavge Empire I failed to see that it required the DRM EA/Origin. Can someone tell me how to unpurchase this game and remove it from my account. If GOG is going to sell or giveaway games with DRM, then they should be filtered to a DRM games section.
My fault, but I was not expecting to find DRM games here.

Total Bull and What Da ****..are you an EA employee from the Marketing department? EA sleeper agent seeping viral, incorrect news to confuse the masses?

I installed both the games:
Worlds of Ultima - Martian Dreams
Worlds of Ultima - The Savage Empire

And both of the run on DosBOX without requiring an Origin login (nor DRM from EA\origins)

Redemption80 · 06-22-2012, 10:26 | posts: 13,532 | Location: Glasgow

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

I don't think anyone is saying they are exclusive to EA titles, just that EA's post-release support for a lot of their PC titles go without updates or fixes.

I think they are quite schizophrenic with it tbh.
Either that or it depends more on the developer not the publisher, as some games like Dead Space or Alice Madness seem to get very little in the way of patches, not that I felt they were any huge issues with those games, while BF3 seems to get what feels like a monthly 2gb patch.

As for console games, I have no idea as there are no EA games that I want that are console only, and the only publisher I have had an issue with on consoles has been THQ.

Not sure what Icanium is on about, either being dense or just lying due some issue with GOG, feel sorry for the guys who have to deal with customer service emails like this, though I suppose it might make them laugh.

Gromuhl'Djun · 06-22-2012, 10:31 | posts: 5,208 | Location: Netherlands

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Originally Posted by k1net1cs

Either that's quite some FUD you have there, or you're just misunderstanding something.

It only requires you to accept EA/Origin's EULA (a PDF file you can choose to read or not) upon installing.
It doesn't have DRM whatsoever and does not require an EA/Origin account, much less installing Origin.

Seriously, how do you put DRM on DOSBox?

Nope, the game doesn't have any DRM.
I just installed it.

Indeed. I can verify this. GoG doesn't force you to use any DRM to play their games.