MSI afterburner bug report & suggestion

[kakarot]

Did a quick search and it doesn't seem to have been suggested -and sorry if it has- but I would love to see a multi-display power saving feature like the one available inspector. Not a big deal but its a pain to keep inspector on a delayed start at boot via batch file so ab can apply its oc settings.
Either way thanks for the wonderful app; I've never had an issue with it.

[kzinti1]

I know Kombuster is mainly for MSI cards, but shouldn't I be able to use it with my EVGA GTX 680's without the screen rolling like an old TV with no vertical hold?

[Gizmo1981]

I get hard locks with sound loops using both the latest beta version AND the final release version.

this happens with BFBC2 and a simulator I use called OMSI, I haven't tried with other games ( I'm not going to risk it either )

If this might shine some light on it, I'm on Catalyst 12.4

I'm gonna roll back to fraps until this issue is fixed.

[ugur3D]

Hello All,
I found a bug in GTA:SAMP
it came new, and i think im the first one that found this.
when SAMP0.3e Came out MSI Afterburner was crashing my game.
if i close MSI it Runs perfecht but with MSI it crashses my game while its loading.
I think the OSD is crashing it but im not sure.
I was always using the OSD in gameplay but now i cant:/

Im using Windows 7 64-Bits version
CPU : Intel Core I5 @2,80Ghz Overclocked at 4,4GHz
GPU : ASUS ENGTX460 TOP
PSU : 550 Watts from Coolermaster (GX)

Please somebody fix this, Thanks

[BigDaddy85]

Originally Posted by spikes525

each time i try to install the last version of msi it give error and i cannot install it ???
idea

Same here, but I was able to get it installed. However, I wasn't able to open it up at all. It said that I am missing a file, have corrupted file, or expired. I uninstalled and reinstalled it. Same thing. Reboot computer didn't help, too.

Any other suggestion?

Edit: I installed official version 2.2.1 and it worked. The one that wasn't working is 2.2.0 beta 15. So never mind me.

[kasper93]

I found bug in GPU voltage monitoring. It was working fine on 12.4 WHQL. But yesterday I have installed 12.6 BETA http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...st126beta.aspx and on this drivers when GPU voltage monitoring is enabled MSI Afterburner seems to freeze driver(I don't know, maybe device I/O) on every stats update.
I spot this through madVR because statistics was wrong, but normal without Afterburner. Even when I move mouse in exclusive mode, mouse freeze on every on every stats update. It's not only happen with madVR so it's Afterburner bug.

I can't provide more info, I know that GPU voltage trigger that issue. I have HD5870@8.98-120522a on Windows 7 64Bit.

[Simplex]

I recently bought GTX 670 and I noticed that EVGA Precision interesting feature related to 6x0 series - Frame Rate Target (framerate limiter). I know that RTSS has its own frame limiter, but it may lead to stuttering - EVGA Precision has nVidia's native implementation. It can still be changed in nVidia inspector, but I hope that nVidia's native Frame Rate Target feature will be available in MSI Afterburner soon.

BTW. Is there any way to get Power Limit slider in older skins, such as Giblu? I looove that skin but it does not show Power Limit

[JezJ]

When afterburner is running, IE10 will not open (desktop version), Metro version opens ok though.

Also getting a lot of crashes with games ie Max Payne and LOTRO whether overclocked or not. When afterburner isn't running, no crashes....

[Tets]

MSI AB 2.2.0 & 2.2.1 + GTX680 + FW 301.42
Incorrect information is displayed with different versions of drivers
How can I fix it?

[blandead]

Originally Posted by Valagard

Explained here

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=360028

The only fix I have found for it is to start windows, wait 5-10 minutes for CCC to apply its overclocks (It doesn't apply overclocks in boot, it waits 5-10 minutes before applying them) and -THEN- turn on MSI afterburner

If you don't wait and turn on MSI afterburner right away, it will boot, apply its clocks, then when CCC overdrive finally loads it loads -ITS- clocks

Disabling CCC overdrive does not fix this, it still loads CCC settings after 5-10 minutes after boot

Yeah the Cat 12.5 WHQL drivers reintroduced that problem, but happy to say it's fixed again with Cat 12.6 beta. I can pretty much start up afterburner the second I log in

[Pill Monster]

Just stop CCC from running at startup, or disable Overdrive...problem solved.

[bdub5886]

Originally Posted by JezJ

When afterburner is running, IE10 will not open (desktop version), Metro version opens ok though.

Also getting a lot of crashes with games ie Max Payne and LOTRO whether overclocked or not. When afterburner isn't running, no crashes....

If you are running these on windows 8, you can not expect Afterburner to be totally compatible with a commercially unreleased OS.

[phandrew]

I'm unable to change voltage even after allowing it in the options and settings.

My card is a Gigabyte 6970 2gb OC WindForce 3X edition.

http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/...px?pid=3784#ov

[Scyphe]

MSI Afterburner and the new 9.00.00 drivers (Catalyst 12.7 beta) aren't playing nice with eachother. Lots of flickering/displacement in desktop and overclocking doesn't work. Remove MSI Afterburner and the flickering disappears (but obviously no overclocking).

[Unwinder]

Originally Posted by Scyphe

MSI Afterburner and the new 9.00.00 drivers (Catalyst 12.7 beta) aren't playing nice with eachother. Lots of flickering/displacement in desktop and overclocking doesn't work. Remove MSI Afterburner and the flickering disappears (but obviously no overclocking).

Unofficial overclocking mode is completely gone with new drivers, old libs no longer work. So use official mode and stay within CCC clock limits. Thank greedy idiots from AMD for that.

[AdamK47]

Can you elaborate on the "Thank greedy idiots from AMD for that" part?

[Imprezzion]

I can get the overclocks to work with the 12.6 9.00 BETA's but it does flip it when applying them at boot.

What happens is that with 2 screens the card underclocks too far and starts to flicker and artifact (300Mhz/150Mhz). Re-Applying the OC or w/e will NOT fix it.

I have to run a DirectX application to make it ''wake up''.
As a example I use Heaven 3.0. As soon as I start that it goes up to his normal 2d dual screen clocks and the overclocks kick in fine when 3d load is present.

After shutting down Heaven or any 3d DirectX app the cards clocks behave fine again and the tearing is gone.

I can use unofficial OC as well with the 9.00's. Running 1265Mhz core, 1675Mhz VRAM with 1.262v Core and 1.618v VRAM on a HD7970 with a Accelero Xtreme 7970 bolted to it.

[BVALJALO]

I have two questions, which are somewhat related.

1) Is proper voltage control for Kepler ever going to be implemented (i.e. made to work)?

Now, before you go telling me that there's no voltage control on Kepler, read what I have to say

Per the AB graphs, my card (a GB WF3 670, 301.42 driver) does not boost to 1.175V under any circumstances when using Afterburner (v2.2.1). I can put Power Limit to the max of 111%, and the Voltage Offset to it's max, and my voltage will max out at 1.162V, even under a full load such as Heaven bench or BF3 or ANYTHING I run. There are no temp issue, power usage is WELL below 100% at all times, etc.

Also, if I instead fire up Precision X, I see the same behavior. HOWEVER, if I also bring up the evga Voltage Tuner from PrecX, and slam the voltage slider to 1.175 ... et voila ... I see my card using 1.175V (on full load), and my max OC on the core goes up by around 30MHz.

Now, I really prefer Afterburner, as I've been using it for many years, and the evga voltage tool appears to be a separate application, and thus changes to the voltage setting are not part of the 'saved profiles' in Precision X. Therefore, I cannot 'start up' at 1.175V, I have to remember to go into the VT tool and change it after starting PrecX manually. Which is lame.

And I am not the only one over at OCN that has this issue, in fact there's another member over there with a card that caps out at only 1.150V on full load.

So ... any chance you guys can upgrade AB so that it works as well as what the evga guys have figured out how to do, so that voltage can be forced to 1.175V for those of us who's cards don't want to go to the max voltage on their own?

And more importantly, any chance that such an increase to the load voltage will be actually stored as part of a saved AB profile?

2) This may have been asked, and I suspect the answer will be NO, but ... will the new MSI 670 PE support voltages over 1.175V? I have a feeling there's going to be a LOT of people very disappointed who buy this card and discover there's no difference in how the core overvolting of the PE works compared to other Keplers ... given the box advertising.

Thanks In Advance
Brett
(aka brettjv, OCN Senior Moderator)

[Blitz6804]

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Unofficial overclocking mode is completely gone with new drivers, old libs no longer work. So use official mode and stay within CCC clock limits. Thank greedy idiots from AMD for that.

What's interesting is that my one PC still runs CCC 10.5, but when I upgraded to Afterburner 2.2.1, unofficial OC got disabled. I think I'll have to put back on 2.2.0. (If I can find it...)

[cowie]

Originally Posted by BVALJALO

I have two questions, which are somewhat related.

1) Is proper voltage control for Kepler ever going to be implemented (i.e. made to work)?

Now, before you go telling me that there's no voltage control on Kepler, read what I have to say

Per the AB graphs, my card (a GB WF3 670, 301.42 driver) does not boost to 1.175V under any circumstances when using Afterburner (v2.2.1). I can put Power Limit to the max of 111%, and the Voltage Offset to it's max, and my voltage will max out at 1.162V, even under a full load such as Heaven bench or BF3 or ANYTHING I run. There are no temp issue, power usage is WELL below 100% at all times, etc.

Also, if I instead fire up Precision X, I see the same behavior. HOWEVER, if I also bring up the evga Voltage Tuner from PrecX, and slam the voltage slider to 1.175 ... et voila ... I see my card using 1.175V (on full load), and my max OC on the core goes up by around 30MHz.

Now, I really prefer Afterburner, as I've been using it for many years, and the evga voltage tool appears to be a separate application, and thus changes to the voltage setting are not part of the 'saved profiles' in Precision X. Therefore, I cannot 'start up' at 1.175V, I have to remember to go into the VT tool and change it after starting PrecX manually. Which is lame.

And I am not the only one over at OCN that has this issue, in fact there's another member over there with a card that caps out at only 1.150V on full load.

So ... any chance you guys can upgrade AB so that it works as well as what the evga guys have figured out how to do, so that voltage can be forced to 1.175V for those of us who's cards don't want to go to the max voltage on their own?

And more importantly, any chance that such an increase to the load voltage will be actually stored as part of a saved AB profile?

2) This may have been asked, and I suspect the answer will be NO, but ... will the new MSI 670 PE support voltages over 1.175V? I have a feeling there's going to be a LOT of people very disappointed who buy this card and discover there's no difference in how the core overvolting of the PE works compared to other Keplers ... given the box advertising.

Thanks In Advance
Brett
(aka brettjv, OCN Senior Moderator)

read your voltage with a digital multimeter plz.
then come back and tell us agian what voltages are at in 2d and low power 3d and high power 3d (p0) with and without each software.
That is if i read you right that you think the card can pick up 30 on the clocks with just .012mv differance

[Mott]

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Unofficial overclocking mode is completely gone with new drivers, old libs no longer work. So use official mode and stay within CCC clock limits. Thank greedy idiots from AMD for that.

Is there going to be any way around this.

This really gets me upset because I have such a good OC and like to have Afterburner deal with everything from profiles to custom fan, OSD etc...

I remember they took out the ability in a few drivers and then put it back in to 12.4... maybe they are just doing it for testing purposes while it is in beta?

I hope so.

[Scyphe]

Hoping Unwinder or someone working on the rivatuner-core can find a solution.. or AMD fix the issues when they release the WHQL. I'll stick with June 14 12.6 for now, can't live without Afterburner.

[BVALJALO]

Originally Posted by cowie

read your voltage with a digital multimeter plz.
then come back and tell us agian what voltages are at in 2d and low power 3d and high power 3d (p0) with and without each software.
That is if i read you right that you think the card can pick up 30 on the clocks with just .012mv differance

Are you suggesting that the AB graphs for voltage are simply wrong on my card? That pushign the evga voltage tuner to 1.175V, which causes the graphs in both AB and Precision to reflect a resulting .012V increase, is actually a misread? I don't have a DMM or I'd do this test, but I find it unlikely it's a misread, frankly. Esp. the increase is reflected in both apps, and given that my card most definitely will OC further with this voltage level enabled. Maybe 30MHz is not 100% reliable, but it's at least 20MHz, I'm certain of that.

[cowie]

Yes they are wrong not only yours but everybodys lol
The reason is it picks it up from nvapi,at least i'm pretty sure anyways and the card has its own mind too.
Now ab can show realtime voltage if you want but
thing is noobs would freak out and flood the developer with"my voltage goes up and down" or "voltage is not where i set it" so for all familys it set up this way by default..
getting back to realtime voltage and 6xx
only seen for myself on 680's so take it as you will.
The voltage will "max out" at 1.21v on ref asus 680 and dcII's with slider or not read on a dmm, slider would put it in p0 or something to boost it up faster over the card doing it itself later.
Yes the slider adds voltage too... i use it to bump up voltaqe some on my hard modded cards...you have to find the right volt step thuogh or else you go backwards
at 1.40v ab says 1.17 lol

[BababooeyHTJ]

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Unofficial overclocking mode is completely gone with new drivers, old libs no longer work. So use official mode and stay within CCC clock limits. Thank greedy idiots from AMD for that.

Wow and there isn't even a utility to edit the bios on these cards as a work around.