gtx 670m defected? - Page 2

Pill Monster · 06-13-2012, 13:03 | posts: 20,456 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by basel

how long my laptop would last if it reach 96-97c at max load??

It's the card you should be more concerned with.

Are you using Furmark to benchmark? If you are - don't.... Furmark puts an excessively high load on the gpu.

Otherwise I'd invest in a laptop cooler like someone else mentioned. Also make sure the fans are dust free and clear of any obstructions.
Laptops should be placed on a hard surface not on your legs or a bed etc...

kanej2007 · 06-13-2012, 13:58 | posts: 5,700 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by basel

how long my laptop would last if it reach 96-97c at max load??

With regards to how long your card will last for if reaching temps exceeding 90 degrees over prolonged periods, you could get days, weeks or months if your lucky before your gpu fries...

As Pill said it's the card you have to worry about. Running your card at 90+ for several hours is like revving the bollocks out of a car which is doing the engine no good...

Should you wish to avoid any damage/expensive repair bills I suggest you either replace the gpu in the laptop or replace the laptop.

Let us know what happens...

zipper · 06-13-2012, 18:30 | posts: 456 | Location: finland

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Originally Posted by MAD-OGRE

Laptop GPUs have a higher threshold then desktops, I think its 115c before it throttles.

I'd bet just 105 C (well, go5700 did 125/135...)

basel · 06-13-2012, 20:27 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

well i talked with the company and they said they will pay for shipping the laptop back to me but i have to pay for shipping it to them , but are you guys 100% sure that 90-96c temperature isnt normal while gaming?? i dont want them to return it saying it is alright and throw a 100$ and a week delay for nothing :S

Pill Monster · 06-13-2012, 20:29 | posts: 20,456 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by basel

well i talked with the company and they said they will pay for shipping the laptop back to me but i have to pay for shipping it to them , but are you guys 100% sure that 90-96c temperature isnt normal while gaming?? i dont want them to return it saying it is alright and throw a 100$ and a week delay for nothing :S

Can't u just send the gfx card...?

basel · 06-13-2012, 20:38 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

well the wlan card is also not working so im hoping to get that fixed as well

zipper · 06-13-2012, 21:08 | posts: 456 | Location: finland

I think 93C is max what I've seen on my NVidia mobile cards, Quadro FX 1600 and GTX 260M.

Mikedogg · *Last edited by Mikedogg; 06-13-2012 at 23:34.*

OK then here's what you need to do.

Start up GUP-Z and set max "GPU TEMP."

Run this and set options prior too your GPU - DX11

Set the benchmark settings as high as you too the point where you a running at about 25-30FPS; run it for about 5mins.

Check your GPU temp, if it's still up in the 90's it's to hot.

Also, what is your "rested idle temp."

basel · 06-14-2012, 00:05 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

idle is 40-45c

Mikedogg · 06-14-2012, 00:15 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

That's normal. Did you do the test? How high did your temp go?

basel · 06-14-2012, 00:35 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

it was 90c average and max was 91c , though diablo3 keep my temperature at 96c most of the time

Mikedogg · *Last edited by Mikedogg; 06-14-2012 at 00:43.*

Send it back. Anybody else want to back me up on that statement, I don't want to be giving bad advice.

If it's still hitting those sort of temps in "real world testing" then it's defective.

kanej2007 · 06-14-2012, 10:36 | posts: 5,700 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by Mikedogg

Anybody else want to back me up on that statement, I don't want to be giving bad advice.

I for one back you up on that. Years back I had a custom built gaming laptop and it too had a defective gpu. It would get so hot it would shut down automatically.

After putting ice packs beneath the laptop I'd get a few extra minutes use out of it before it would shut down...

It would get to late 90's/early 100's and off it went...

As we all said return the laptop & either get them to replace the gpu or replace the laptop itself.

basel · 06-15-2012, 13:00 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

i sent the laptop back , but damn the shipping is expensive back to usa , but i hope the company dont play stupid about the high temperature , because the company customer support already told me some programs dont give accurate reading !! but however they will look into it.

scatman839 · 06-15-2012, 13:06 | posts: 8,728 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

programs just read the sensors, I don't see how they could be wrong

but it sounds like they're going to try screw you over and say its fine

zipper · 06-15-2012, 13:14 | posts: 456 | Location: finland

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Originally Posted by scatman839

programs just read the sensors, I don't see how they could be wrong

However the results may differ, better to use several programs to be sure.

basel · 06-15-2012, 13:41 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

well i told them if they screw me they are basically screwing themselves by damaging their reputation , because a happy customer will breed more customers.

kanej2007 · 06-15-2012, 14:29 | posts: 5,700 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by basel

i sent the laptop back , but damn the shipping is expensive back to usa , but i hope the company dont play stupid about the high temperature , because the company customer support already told me some programs dont give accurate reading !! but however they will look into it.

Why did you buy a laptop all that way from USA to Kuwait?

Reason being any problems faced (yourself as an example) you now have to muck about sending it back and fourth which costs money & time...

Anyway what's done is done, just follow it up and let us know any news...

basel · 06-15-2012, 14:39 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

because gaming laptops over here are treated as something completely different than laptops , they are like something not meant for the public , the moment u have a mid range gpu in a laptop it price soars automatically into 1500$ , they price a laptop according to what "they " believe it is worth not the actual market value , like a msi laptop with a gtx 570m over here cost 2500$ while normally it's price is 1500$ and that is for the new model with gtx 670m!!

kanej2007 · 06-17-2012, 09:26 | posts: 5,700 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by basel

because gaming laptops over here are treated as something completely different than laptops , they are like something not meant for the public , the moment u have a mid range gpu in a laptop it price soars automatically into 1500$ , they price a laptop according to what "they " believe it is worth not the actual market value , like a msi laptop with a gtx 570m over here cost 2500$ while normally it's price is 1500$ and that is for the new model with gtx 670m!!

Wow, expensive! Now I know why you've ordered from abroad.

Though it's time consuming with regards to shipping it's worth the wait.

Inshallah you will get a replacement soon!

basel · 06-18-2012, 12:23 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

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Originally Posted by kanej2007

Wow, expensive! Now I know why you've ordered from abroad.

Though it's time consuming with regards to shipping it's worth the wait.

Inshallah you will get a replacement soon!

thx , i just hope now they actually fix the temperature issue not send me back the laptop with the same problem and tell me it is running now at 60c under full load . should i ask them for a screenshot of the low temps?

kanej2007 · 06-19-2012, 06:09 | posts: 5,700 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by basel

thx , i just hope now they actually fix the temperature issue not send me back the laptop with the same problem and tell me it is running now at 60c under full load . should i ask them for a screenshot of the low temps?

The best thing would be to ask them to run a video stress test. This way they will know for sure if the problem has been solved as well as load temps...

For example, ask them to run 3D Mark 2006/2007 etc...

This will push your gpu to it's limits and they will know for sure if the problem has been solved,

thatguy91 · 06-19-2012, 10:53 | posts: 2,749 | Location: Australia

You have to remember in a laptop the temperature will seep through to the rest of the computer. The two worst places for temperatures to seep are the battery and the hard drive. Even if the GPU can take such a high temperature, the other components won't like it!

Foamy4 · *Last edited by Foamy4; 06-22-2012 at 09:41.*

nvm my comment :p

basel · 06-25-2012, 22:14 | posts: 679 | Location: kuwait

i talked with the company and they told me that it was defective and they replaced it with another one , they are saying that it is reaching 90-91 at full load now , is that okey??