Are there going to be any new cpus from intel this year?

[Legendary_Agent]

Hey all im planning to upgrade my pc, but since windows 8 is about to come im interested into knowing if new cpus will come this year?
Also are the current cpus only 32nm? or do we have 28/22nm cpus aswell?

Thanks in advance!

[BLEH!]

22 nm Ivy Bridge is out now. Fine if you don't want to overclock, but gets hot very fast as you up the speed.

[Legendary_Agent]

Originally Posted by BLEH!

22 nm Ivy Bridge is out now. Fine if you don't want to overclock, but gets hot very fast as you up the speed.

Hello thanks for your fast response, do you think ivy bridge offers more performance than the 2011 socket cpus? can you help me with a link to learn more about these cpus and whats available? thanks a lot again!

[deltatux]

Maybe a faster Core i7 is my prediction by bumping the Core i7 3770K's speed and call it the Core i7 3780K or 3790K. Other than that, no, unless you want to wait for Haswell which is due next year.

deltatux

[---TK---]

I predict a slightly faster IB cpu. 100mhz faster ala 2600k to 2700k. nothing more unless they are going to do an IB revision the right way to tone down heat and increase overclockability. 1155 already had its tock and tick. lga 2011 is on its tock now and IB-E will be the tick. this is pretty much it until haswell

[BLEH!]

Sandy Bridge-E is just about the fastest CPU you can get nowadays. The consumer chips are 6 cores (8 with 2 disabled), but you can get the full on 8-core Xeon loveliness if you've got a lot of pennies to spare, just don't go expecting to OC them. I do get the feeling that Intel disabled 2 of the cores to keep the heat acceptable, the 8-core chips are bordering on 150W at 3 GHz IIRC. TBH, though, you're probably better with a 2600K or similar unless you do a lot of essential CPU-limited stuff like transcoding which actually makes you money, then the extra cores, 4-channel RAM and extra PCIe lanes might be necessary, either that or e-peen

[sykozis]

Originally Posted by Legendary_Agent

Hey all im planning to upgrade my pc, but since windows 8 is about to come im interested into knowing if new cpus will come this year?
Also are the current cpus only 32nm? or do we have 28/22nm cpus aswell?

Thanks in advance!

Windows8 is still several months away and hardly justifies a new CPU on it's own if you have anything released in the last 4-6 years....

[anticupidon]

Does the actual software can really use the power of latest,fastest cpus?

[Octavean]

Sandy Bridge-E is older then Ivy Bridge by about 6 months (half a year) and therefore the LGA2011 platform is more likely to receive a new processor then LGA1155 IMO. Probably something as simple as a speed bump. In addition, LGA2011 motherboards could use an update if not the X79 chipset in order to help keep pace with Z77.

Most people don’t care about that though as they only have eyes for Ivy Bridge.

[Legendary_Agent]

Well im looking at a 2011 socket cpu namely INTEL CORE i7 3930K

it says its 32nm not 22 or 28, i cant find any 22 or 28nm cpus, how come by what i could understand from this thread they were already in production no?

[sykozis]

Originally Posted by Legendary_Agent

Well im looking at a 2011 socket cpu namely INTEL CORE i7 3930K

it says its 32nm not 22 or 28, i cant find any 22 or 28nm cpus, how come by what i could understand from this thread they were already in production no?

Sandy Bridge based processors are 32nm. Ivy Bridge based processors are 22nm. There are currently no Ivy Bridge based LGA2011 processors on the market, only Sandy Bridge.

[Legendary_Agent]

Oh ic, thanks for all replies so far btw.
Is there any planned release date on them or is it too early to tell?

[BLEH!]

They'll be out late this year most likely.

[sykozis]

Probably Q3 or later....

[deltatux]

I'm not completely convinced that Intel is going to release an SB-E successor this year. Looking back at Nehalem, it took Intel 3 years to out a successor to those Bloomfield chips. I think Intel's going to wait for Haswell before outing a successor. I believe that it is using the mainstream markets to test the waters of the new fabrication process and possibly even the architecture before making a high end part out of it.

Remember, LGA2011 was designed for the server and HPC markets in mind first, then enthusiast consumer markets second (seeing how Intel merged the enthusiast socket with the server socket with LGA2011). Even though we hate to believe this as enthusiasts, these high performing SB-E chips are mainly for companies who need high performance chips, not really for enthusiasts. The high prices are often only affordable by these companies who have the budget to spend this type of money.

By using this logic, companies tend to have a protracted upgrade cycle, so Intel doesn't have to push as hard to push out the latest chips in terms of technological breakthrough as long as it still maintains a performance edge.

So I'm more inclined to believe an SB-E successor in late 2013 instead of late 2012.

EDIT: Even during the LGA1155/1366 days only the mainstream segment received a dieshrink, Bloomfield was kept at 45nm while Lynnfield received the 32nm shrink. So this sounds like a repeat of that. Though I guess Westmere made it interesting where the hexa and octocore variants did receive 32nm updates, so there was an exception...

deltatux

[Vxheous]

@Legendary Agent. I just upgraded from your exact processor Core 2 Duo E8400 clocked to 3.6Ghz to an Ivy Bridge i5 3570K clocked at 4.4Ghz. People can trash Ivy Bridge all they want about the overclock heat issue, but unless you're trying to hit 4.8-5.0Ghz on it, Ivy Bridge is just fine. Huge upgrade for me, and 4.4 Ghz is a 1Ghz overclock over stock speed, with very reasonable temps.

[deltatux]

Originally Posted by Vxheous

@Legendary Agent. I just upgraded from your exact processor Core 2 Duo E8400 clocked to 3.6Ghz to an Ivy Bridge i5 3570K clocked at 4.4Ghz. People can trash Ivy Bridge all they want about the overclock heat issue, but unless you're trying to hit 4.8-5.0Ghz on it, Ivy Bridge is just fine. Huge upgrade for me, and 4.4 Ghz is a 1Ghz overclock over stock speed, with very reasonable temps.

Really? Even at 1.188V, my CPU would go to 90+C. I think I need a new cooler then lol.

deltatux

[smashly]

+1 @Vxheous

Originally Posted by deltatux

Really? Even at 1.188V, my CPU would go to 90+C. I think I need a new cooler then lol.

deltatux

Your chip at default speeds under load is the hottest I've seen an IB with an aftermarket cooler going from your thread Correct method of applying TIM?
Definately is your cooler..lol
For me to get my 3570K to your load temps deltatux, I'd have to run @ 4.4Ghz+ with an ambient room temp of 30c+

[Vxheous]

Originally Posted by deltatux

Really? Even at 1.188V, my CPU would go to 90+C. I think I need a new cooler then lol.

deltatux

Yeah, you definately need a new cooler. I idle @28*C, ambient temp in room is 21*C. Playing Diablo III it's about 60*C, BF3 it's about 65*C. Prime95 pushes it to about 74*C, and LinX pushes it to 80*C. Since I only benchmark for stability purposes, and I know my system is stable, my processor will rarely if ever hit 70*C.

[Legendary_Agent]

Ok from what i understand the new 22nm cpus will be socket 2011, will offer nothing new except a slight increase in speed, lesser voltage and heat, without offering new instruction set or updating the current instruction set, is this correct guys?
Thanks in advance!

[GiNaJuIcE]

i see socket 2011 having the same fate as the 1156 and 1366. Both just dropped off the face of the the earth. Still love my 1156 core i5 but when the support dropped for it i figured its not worth getting any new cpu's till they start to flourish. 1155 did but that was around the same time i got my 1156 and thought the 1156 was going to be better. ha. Will wait. my computer is plenty fast.

[smashly]

Originally Posted by GiNaJuIcE

i see socket 2011 having the same fate as the 1156 and 1366. Both just dropped off the face of the the earth. Still love my 1156 core i5 but when the support dropped for it i figured its not worth getting any new cpu's till they start to flourish. 1155 did but that was around the same time i got my 1156 and thought the 1156 was going to be better. ha. Will wait. my computer is plenty fast.

Basically it was why I didn't go for the 2011 socket upgrade..
After feeling screwed over with my 1366 & i7 950, I opted to cheap out on the 1155..

While I sat there with my expensive impressive 1366 & i7 950 with the x58 chipset and in the mean time out comes the 1155 mobo with chipset upgrades from 61 to 77, each gen offering native support for newer features, better performance, less power consumption for 1/2 the price and still being able to use the same cpu...
What did 1366 soket get over that time nothing but 3rd party chips to add newer tech that realy didn't ad much improvement...
Wasn't going down that path again when 2011 socket x79 came around this time. Even though deep down inside the x79 was what really would have liked to get.

[cowie]

I think x79 with 39xx chip is a nice little step over the 1155 stuff.
As for me I rather be on that then 2700k or 3770k but its alot of cash so p/p is not there to be honest.
That said a x79 and 39xxk would not have to be updated for a longass while.

[GiNaJuIcE]

well the x79 chipset is a step backwards. The only thing appealing about the 2011 cpu's are the 40 pcie lanes.