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Member Guru
Videocard: GTX 680 SLI
Processor: Core i5 2500k @ 4.8ghz
Mainboard: Msi Z68a-GD65 (g3)
Memory: G-Skill 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3
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PSU: Corsair AX 850
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05-08-2012, 09:04
| posts: 61 | Location: England
Well the potential market is:
Anyone with a 120hz monitor.
3d gamers.
Surround gamers.
People trying to max metro 2033.
Rich people.
That's a lot of market potential tbh...
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte 690 - 1202/500
Processor: 930@4.4 HT on-Water-24/7
Mainboard: R2E (Nb/Sb/Mos-Water)
Memory: 12Gb Corsair 1600(1675)
Soundcard: XonarXense-Sennheiser 350
PSU: Corsair AX 1200w
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05-08-2012, 09:13
| posts: 7,382 | Location: United kingdom
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaju123
Well the potential market is:
Anyone with a 120hz monitor.
3d gamers.
Surround gamers.
People trying to max metro 2033.
Rich people.
That's a lot of market potential tbh...
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Tbh i was able to play metro comfortably with my 295's on high but not ultra high.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: GTX680 2GB @ 1202/7000
Processor: Intel i5 2500K @ 4.2Ghz
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: Corsair TX650M
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05-08-2012, 10:22
| posts: 939 | Location: Belgium
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArCElM
256bit memory on a 680? COME ON!
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It has come to my attention that you make some pretty bold statements. First you were complaining about how little of a difference high end cards make these days. Then you suddenly change your mind and buy a GTX680. You open a lot of threads where you say you love this card. Then you have a vsync issue in Skyrim and if it doesn't get fixed, you're going to get rid off the card? Now the 256bit memory bus isn't enough?
I mean, come on, nothing against you but make up your mind.
Ontopic: like said before, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Yes you don't need a GTX690 to max out almost every game out there. I have a GTX680 and I game at 1080p. Do I need that much power to play games at that resolution? Imo no but I always buy the best single gpu out there when the time has come to buy a new card. So far I haven't regret it. It's like with a lot of things: some people spend lots of money on things they don't actually need but they're happy about it so who cares?
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: Asus 660Ti DirectCU II OC
Processor: i5-3570k
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 Pro4
Memory: 8gb G.Skill DDR3 1600
Soundcard: X-Fi XM
PSU: XFX Pro 750w
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05-08-2012, 11:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArCElM
256bit memory on a 680? COME ON!
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Its not the size of the mem interface that matters, but what you do with it. Learned that long ago with a 6600gt with 128bit mem bus which laid waste to all 256bit cards that came before it. Same with 7600gt, 8800gts 512 and other cards that followed. Its the card ability to push/compress as much or more bandwidth through a smaller 'orifice' that impresses rather than using more expensive larger bus widths to achieve same thing.
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Newbie
Videocard: MSI GTX 680
Processor: SB 2700k @ 4.8Ghz / 1.36v
Mainboard: ASUS Maximus Extreme Z
Memory: 16gb g-skill
Soundcard: ASUS Xonar Essence STX
PSU: 1250w XFX
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05-08-2012, 11:11
| posts: 14 | Location: Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelsmack
There is NO market for this card! Both financially and technically. The current 580s a can push any game at 60fps at 1080, with all options maxed. Most games even in a SINGLE card setup!
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I don't find 60fps smooth enough for my liking and I passionately hate v-sync. I strive for 100+fps using a 120hz monitor. I think a gtx 690 is perfectly acceptable for 1080p gaming.
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Master Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 2GB
Processor: intel i7 2700k @ 4.7GHz
Mainboard: MSI Z77A-GD65
Memory: Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
Soundcard: ASUS Xonar D2X PCI-E 7.1
PSU: Corsair AX860
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05-08-2012, 12:00
| posts: 208 | Location: UK
Well some people like THe best of the best and they don't care about the price. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.
Some people prefer having 1 card for multiple monitors instead of having 2 cards in sli, and to be honest, 2 cards is what u need to 2+ monitors if you want to run games at good framerate.
But, at the end, no like - no buy... easy
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX 690
Processor: i7-3770K
Mainboard: ASUS Maximus 5 Formula
Memory: 16GB Corsair DDR3 2133
Soundcard: Essence STX - OPA627
PSU: Seasonic 1000w
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05-08-2012, 12:23
| posts: 6,348 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelsmack
That's not what I was on about. I was raging because the "press" was trying to tell everyone this is what every gamer should have. Stroking NVIDIA to help with their PR blitz.
Guru3D actually does point out the 690s true niche' nature. Good for them.
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Please show me one review from a decent source that says every gamer should have one. I've read like 5 reviews on it, they all label it as niche, very expensive card that should really only be used for triple monitor setups, or for people that want something that will last for years.
Hell even at the conference when they launched the card, the CEO himself said it was not a card for everyone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn
Why did you buy a GTX 680 then ? With that mindset you should have gotten a R7970.
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Probably doesn't own one, just put it there so he take shots without receiving flak, because he "owns one". Looks like that backfired.
Last edited by Denial; 05-08-2012 at 12:27.
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Master Guru
Videocard: GTX 570 SLI
Processor: 2600K @ 5Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 WS Revolution
Memory: 16GB Corsair VengeanceLP
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DX
PSU: PCP&C silencer mk II 950
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05-08-2012, 12:40
| posts: 531 | Location: USA
This thread title is extremely trollish if you ask me.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: EVGA480SLI H20
Processor: 3770K 4.8GHZ H20
Mainboard: MAXIMUS V FORMULA H20
Memory: DGT 16GB 2133C9 H20
Soundcard: Xsence STX Razer Mako 2.1
PSU: AX1200 Watt.
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05-08-2012, 12:51
| posts: 2,297 | Location: AUSTRALIA
times have changed. when 8800gtx first released price tag was around $1200 I had no problems getting 2 for sli. now with family I have to watch budget. but yeah this is nothing new with the pricing
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Master Guru
Videocard: TGT GTX680 Ultra Charged
Processor: i7 3770k
Mainboard: ASRock z77 Fatal1ty Pro
Memory: 16GB 1600mhz Ripjaws
Soundcard: Nvidia HDMI to Tannoy 5.1
PSU: Corsair HX1000w
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05-08-2012, 13:24
| posts: 536 | Location: Basingstoke UK
Personally I'm not ineterested in any dual gpu solution. However if i was i would consider a 690 for a couple of reasons over a 480/580 sli set up.
Lower power consumption and the fact that its all on one PCB, dual slot.
So surely there is a market for it based on those two points alone?
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Maha Guru
Videocard: GTX 690 @ 140+/130+/560+
Processor: W3300 Xeon @ 4.15Ghz
Mainboard: Asus SaberTooth X58
Memory: G.Skill RipJaws
Soundcard: SOUNDBLASTER X-FI(USB)
PSU: Enermax revolution 1020W
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05-08-2012, 15:40
| posts: 1,588
Quote:
Originally Posted by alanm
Its not the size of the mem interface that matters, but what you do with it. Learned that long ago with a 6600gt with 128bit mem bus which laid waste to all 256bit cards that came before it. Same with 7600gt, 8800gts 512 and other cards that followed. Its the card ability to push/compress as much or more bandwidth through a smaller 'orifice' that impresses rather than using more expensive larger bus widths to achieve same thing.
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LOL now thats a word I never here used to often, "orifice", FTW.
Very very very good complex word. very good.
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Master Guru
Videocard: Leadtek GTX 580 SLI
Processor: i7 950
Mainboard: MSI x58 Pro-E
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 12GB
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: CoolerMaster SPG 1200w
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05-08-2012, 16:39
| posts: 492 | Location: Sydney
Wow you even got the owner of the website quoting you... YOU'VE UPSET THE ALMIGHTY WITH YOUR BLASPHEMY!
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Master Guru
Videocard: 470gtx s/c
Processor: e8400 @3.8 , Zalman 900
Mainboard: Evga 680i,bios 33
Memory: 4gigsddr2 Corsair XMS1066
Soundcard: Xonar, logitech 5500
PSU: 700w Thermaltake
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05-08-2012, 16:47
| posts: 422 | Location: Seattle
"genital stroking reviews" ....good one.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX Titan SC H20
Processor: i7 2700K 5GHz 1.35 HT H20
Mainboard: Asus P8Z77-WS
Memory: G.Skill 8GBx2 2133
Soundcard: Xonar Phoebus-PC360/HD598
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000
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05-08-2012, 17:00
| posts: 5,621 | Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by A M D BugBear
LOL now thats a word I never here used to often, "orifice", FTW.
Very very very good complex word. very good.
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kinda wrong context. orifice only correlates to the human body. not inanimate objects.
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Member Guru
Videocard: MSI GTX460 hawk
Processor: Q9450 @ 3.2ghz
Mainboard: Gigabyte P45 DS3R
Memory: OCZ titanium 4gb 800mhz
Soundcard:
PSU: Coolermaster M620
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05-08-2012, 17:07
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Master Guru
Videocard: Asus GTX 690 4gb
Processor: Intel i7 3930k 4700ghz HT
Mainboard: ASUS Rampage IV extreme
Memory: Dominator Plat 64gb 2133
Soundcard: X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty
PSU: Gigabyte Odin 1200w
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05-08-2012, 18:06
| posts: 410 | Location: Dubai
See my rig. I like pc. I like sexy pc, but a single 580 CANNOT max some games out there at a solid and constant 60fps.
Now listen brother, I know we all have different experiences with gfx cards, but I have a 580 SLI set up and if a 690 can do the same if not more with regards to performance then i am sold, why? because less noise and less heat and a single card just mentally "feels" better.
I think this card is a great thing and there a many, MANY people who are going to buy this, use it and love it just like an expensive hoo... oops 
Anyways thanks for bringing this thread up, its an interesting one. Have a good one!
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Master Guru
Videocard: Leadtek GTX 580 SLI
Processor: i7 950
Mainboard: MSI x58 Pro-E
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 12GB
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: CoolerMaster SPG 1200w
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05-08-2012, 18:15
| posts: 492 | Location: Sydney
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedSeptember
See my rig. I like pc. I like sexy pc, but a single 580 CANNOT max some games out there at a solid and constant 60fps.
Now listen brother, I know we all have different experiences with gfx cards, but I have a 580 SLI set up and if a 690 can do the same if not more with regards to performance then i am sold, why? because less noise and less heat and a single card just mentally "feels" better.
I think this card is a great thing and there a many, MANY people who are going to buy this, use it and love it just like an expensive hoo... oops
Anyways thanks for bringing this thread up, its an interesting one. Have a good one!
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I whole heartedly agree! I knew there were other not so sane people out there
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Maha Guru
Videocard: EVGA 660gtx sig2
Processor: i7 920 CNPS10X Quiet
Mainboard: Evga x58 SLI LE
Memory: 3x2gb Dominator@1600 6Gb
Soundcard: Realtek HD Audio
PSU: Antec Truepower 750
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05-08-2012, 18:16
| posts: 2,283 | Location: USA
Bottom line GPU prices have gotten out of hand considering PC tech is held back cause of alot pc games are ports these days. and those are the only games the push those new overprices cards. there has not been a pc only game that pushed cards since crysis and metro. And I still think crysis was more brutal to gpu when it came out then metro. I have my doubts even when console catch up it will still be same problem of PC tech held back by consoles, cause consles are the lead dev for alot games. till that changes and pc games are the lead and pc games use the tech they actual have i dont see those overprices cards worth it.
But then I dont do 3 monitors or 5x 1080p res 1080p and 4x AA and 60fps is all is need and alot of other people, it just alot people here OC fanatics and 3d surround 3 monitor nitch market so they have that sense that it is the norm.
there a market yes, for the rich people that want the latest and greatest tech to stroke the e-peen those are the people that buy at the ridiculous prices and the people that are leading the cause to why gpu make keep raising there prices 1000$ for mid range dual chip gpu? at this rate in 5 years that will probably be like 1500-2000$.
Is it not a wonder why more people flock to consoles these days? its a sad fact but a true fact.
Last edited by tsunami231; 05-08-2012 at 18:20.
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Master Guru
Videocard: Leadtek GTX 580 SLI
Processor: i7 950
Mainboard: MSI x58 Pro-E
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 12GB
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: CoolerMaster SPG 1200w
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05-08-2012, 18:27
| posts: 492 | Location: Sydney
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsunami231
Bottom line GPU prices have gotten out of hand considering PC tech is held back cause of alot pc games are ports these days. and those are the only games the push those new overprices cards. there has not been a pc only game that pushed cards since crysis and metro. And I still think crysis was more brutal to gpu when it came out then metro. I have my doubts even when console catch up it will still be same problem of PC tech held back by consoles, cause consles are the lead dev for alot games. till that changes and pc games are the lead and pc games use the tech they actual have i dont see those overprices cards worth it.
But then I dont do 3 monitors or 5x 1080p res 1080p and 4x AA and 60fps is all is need and alot of other people, it just alot people here OC fanatics and 3d surround 3 monitor nitch market so they have that sense that it is the norm.
there a market yes, for the rich people that want the latest and greatest tech to stroke the e-peen those are the people that buy at the ridiculous prices and the people that are leading the cause to why gpu make keep raising there prices 1000$ for mid range dual chip gpu? at this rate in 5 years that will probably be like 1500-2000$.
Is it not a wonder why more people flock to consoles these days? its a sad fact but a true fact.
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Wrong.
How do Nvidia price the 690 at $1000 with your reasoning "for the rich people that want the latest and greatest tech to stroke the e-peen those are the people that buy at the ridiculous prices and the people that are leading the cause to why gpu make keep raising there prices 1000$ for mid range dual chip gpu" WHEN IT HADN'T EVEN COME OUT.
On top of this, with your reasoning, these were the prices 5-10 years ago already on top of the line, so with your rate of 5 years, this 690 SHOULD have been $1500-$2000 already.
And everyone stating the 690 is mid-range, show me a physical card that is =/> than the 690. At the moment the 690 is top high-end as they haven't got anything else to push it to mid-range.
EDIT -
Console port or not, there are games/mods/configs out there that WILL cripple your $5000 super computer its just everyone uses their hardware within limits so its always going to look like "you realy only need a 5850 to play BF3" BS...
Last edited by snowdweller; 05-08-2012 at 18:30.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: GTX
Processor: 2600k
Mainboard: gigabyte p67 UD7
Memory: 2x4g 1600 ddr3
Soundcard:
PSU: pcp&c 1200 watt
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05-08-2012, 18:43
| posts: 10,860 | Location: new jersey
I look at it a different way.
Alot of pc gamers with fancy rigs would rather die then lower thier settings or resolutions to console levels to get the games to run faster.
Its those people that do the upgrade to $1000 vga's.
About the price,its should be a few hundred cheaper going by past franken card prices
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte 690 - 1202/500
Processor: 930@4.4 HT on-Water-24/7
Mainboard: R2E (Nb/Sb/Mos-Water)
Memory: 12Gb Corsair 1600(1675)
Soundcard: XonarXense-Sennheiser 350
PSU: Corsair AX 1200w
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05-08-2012, 18:56
| posts: 7,382 | Location: United kingdom
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowie
I look at it a different way.
Alot of pc gamers with fancy rigs would rather die then lower thier settings or resolutions to console levels to get the games to run faster.
Its those people that do the upgrade to $1000 vga's.
About the price,its should be a few hundred cheaper going by past franken card prices
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Yeah but the previous generations of dual cards used more power,generated more heat and did not overclock as well as there single pcb alternatives.
The technology on the 690 allows all these issues to be sorted out and that is what your paying for,hence the expensive price tag(i dont actually think that its expensive tbh)infact once they start refining keplar technology performance will be even better and prices should be cheaper.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: EVGA 660gtx sig2
Processor: i7 920 CNPS10X Quiet
Mainboard: Evga x58 SLI LE
Memory: 3x2gb Dominator@1600 6Gb
Soundcard: Realtek HD Audio
PSU: Antec Truepower 750
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05-08-2012, 21:11
| posts: 2,283 | Location: USA
its not wrong, I have watch gpu prices more then triple since the days of 3dfx people buy at the higher and prices so the makes keep trying to price higher and higher.
Case and point would be the ps3 is was 600$ system and people said no way they would buy it yet tons did, while the norma was about 299-399$ and next gen console are gona be more expensive then last and people will still buy it. so next gen will try to raise prices again.
It's no diffrent then what gpu makers have been doing for years.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: XFX 7970 DD
Processor: i5 2500K @ 4.7
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P
Memory: Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz
Soundcard: On board
PSU: Corsair AX650
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05-08-2012, 21:17
| posts: 1,099 | Location: UK
It's all about the e-peen bro.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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05-08-2012, 21:23
| posts: 14,693 | Location: New Jersey, USA
$799 would of been a better price. dual gpu cards have in the past been cheaper than buying 2 physical cards. may of even gotten 1 at that price, I`ll pass, but I`ll refrain from making a new thread crying about it.
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