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Default 05-08-2012, 09:04 | posts: 146 | Location: Netherlands

Well the potential market is:

Anyone with a 120hz monitor.
3d gamers.
Surround gamers.
People trying to max metro 2033.
Rich people.

That's a lot of market potential tbh...
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 09:13 | posts: 9,022 | Location: United kingdom

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Well the potential market is:

Anyone with a 120hz monitor.
3d gamers.
Surround gamers.
People trying to max metro 2033.
Rich people.

That's a lot of market potential tbh...
Tbh i was able to play metro comfortably with my 295's on high but not ultra high.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 10:22 | posts: 961 | Location: Belgium

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256bit memory on a 680? COME ON!
It has come to my attention that you make some pretty bold statements. First you were complaining about how little of a difference high end cards make these days. Then you suddenly change your mind and buy a GTX680. You open a lot of threads where you say you love this card. Then you have a vsync issue in Skyrim and if it doesn't get fixed, you're going to get rid off the card? Now the 256bit memory bus isn't enough?

I mean, come on, nothing against you but make up your mind.

Ontopic: like said before, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Yes you don't need a GTX690 to max out almost every game out there. I have a GTX680 and I game at 1080p. Do I need that much power to play games at that resolution? Imo no but I always buy the best single gpu out there when the time has come to buy a new card. So far I haven't regret it. It's like with a lot of things: some people spend lots of money on things they don't actually need but they're happy about it so who cares?
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 11:04 | posts: 5,355

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256bit memory on a 680? COME ON!
Its not the size of the mem interface that matters, but what you do with it. Learned that long ago with a 6600gt with 128bit mem bus which laid waste to all 256bit cards that came before it. Same with 7600gt, 8800gts 512 and other cards that followed. Its the card ability to push/compress as much or more bandwidth through a smaller 'orifice' that impresses rather than using more expensive larger bus widths to achieve same thing.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 11:11 | posts: 17 | Location: Australia

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There is NO market for this card! Both financially and technically. The current 580s a can push any game at 60fps at 1080, with all options maxed. Most games even in a SINGLE card setup!
I don't find 60fps smooth enough for my liking and I passionately hate v-sync. I strive for 100+fps using a 120hz monitor. I think a gtx 690 is perfectly acceptable for 1080p gaming.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 12:00 | posts: 266 | Location: UK

Well some people like THe best of the best and they don't care about the price. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.
Some people prefer having 1 card for multiple monitors instead of having 2 cards in sli, and to be honest, 2 cards is what u need to 2+ monitors if you want to run games at good framerate.
But, at the end, no like - no buy... easy
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 12:23 | posts: 6,632 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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That's not what I was on about. I was raging because the "press" was trying to tell everyone this is what every gamer should have. Stroking NVIDIA to help with their PR blitz.

Guru3D actually does point out the 690s true niche' nature. Good for them.
Please show me one review from a decent source that says every gamer should have one. I've read like 5 reviews on it, they all label it as niche, very expensive card that should really only be used for triple monitor setups, or for people that want something that will last for years.

Hell even at the conference when they launched the card, the CEO himself said it was not a card for everyone.


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Why did you buy a GTX 680 then ? With that mindset you should have gotten a R7970.
Probably doesn't own one, just put it there so he take shots without receiving flak, because he "owns one". Looks like that backfired.

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Default 05-08-2012, 12:40 | posts: 534 | Location: USA

This thread title is extremely trollish if you ask me.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 12:51 | posts: 2,324 | Location: AUSTRALIA

times have changed. when 8800gtx first released price tag was around $1200 I had no problems getting 2 for sli. now with family I have to watch budget. but yeah this is nothing new with the pricing
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 13:24 | posts: 606 | Location: England

Personally I'm not ineterested in any dual gpu solution. However if i was i would consider a 690 for a couple of reasons over a 480/580 sli set up.

Lower power consumption and the fact that its all on one PCB, dual slot.

So surely there is a market for it based on those two points alone?
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 15:40 | posts: 1,741

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Its not the size of the mem interface that matters, but what you do with it. Learned that long ago with a 6600gt with 128bit mem bus which laid waste to all 256bit cards that came before it. Same with 7600gt, 8800gts 512 and other cards that followed. Its the card ability to push/compress as much or more bandwidth through a smaller 'orifice' that impresses rather than using more expensive larger bus widths to achieve same thing.

LOL now thats a word I never here used to often, "orifice", FTW.

Very very very good complex word. very good.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 16:39 | posts: 492 | Location: Sydney

Wow you even got the owner of the website quoting you... YOU'VE UPSET THE ALMIGHTY WITH YOUR BLASPHEMY!
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 16:47 | posts: 423 | Location: Seattle

"genital stroking reviews" ....good one.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 17:00 | posts: 6,145 | Location: USA

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LOL now thats a word I never here used to often, "orifice", FTW.

Very very very good complex word. very good.
kinda wrong context. orifice only correlates to the human body. not inanimate objects.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 17:04 | posts: 6,632 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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kinda wrong context. orifice only correlates to the human body. not inanimate objects.
Eh, not really, it can apply to anything with a hole in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orifice
http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/orifice
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/orifice
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 17:07 | posts: 86

Gigabyte GTX690 in stock on Dutch Alternate: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product..._690/1006375/?
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 18:06 | posts: 473 | Location: Dubai

See my rig. I like pc. I like sexy pc, but a single 580 CANNOT max some games out there at a solid and constant 60fps.

Now listen brother, I know we all have different experiences with gfx cards, but I have a 580 SLI set up and if a 690 can do the same if not more with regards to performance then i am sold, why? because less noise and less heat and a single card just mentally "feels" better.

I think this card is a great thing and there a many, MANY people who are going to buy this, use it and love it just like an expensive hoo... oops

Anyways thanks for bringing this thread up, its an interesting one. Have a good one!
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 18:15 | posts: 492 | Location: Sydney

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See my rig. I like pc. I like sexy pc, but a single 580 CANNOT max some games out there at a solid and constant 60fps.

Now listen brother, I know we all have different experiences with gfx cards, but I have a 580 SLI set up and if a 690 can do the same if not more with regards to performance then i am sold, why? because less noise and less heat and a single card just mentally "feels" better.

I think this card is a great thing and there a many, MANY people who are going to buy this, use it and love it just like an expensive hoo... oops

Anyways thanks for bringing this thread up, its an interesting one. Have a good one!
I whole heartedly agree! I knew there were other not so sane people out there
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 18:16 | posts: 2,916 | Location: USA

Bottom line GPU prices have gotten out of hand considering PC tech is held back cause of alot pc games are ports these days. and those are the only games the push those new overprices cards. there has not been a pc only game that pushed cards since crysis and metro. And I still think crysis was more brutal to gpu when it came out then metro. I have my doubts even when console catch up it will still be same problem of PC tech held back by consoles, cause consles are the lead dev for alot games. till that changes and pc games are the lead and pc games use the tech they actual have i dont see those overprices cards worth it.

But then I dont do 3 monitors or 5x 1080p res 1080p and 4x AA and 60fps is all is need and alot of other people, it just alot people here OC fanatics and 3d surround 3 monitor nitch market so they have that sense that it is the norm.

there a market yes, for the rich people that want the latest and greatest tech to stroke the e-peen those are the people that buy at the ridiculous prices and the people that are leading the cause to why gpu make keep raising there prices 1000$ for mid range dual chip gpu? at this rate in 5 years that will probably be like 1500-2000$.

Is it not a wonder why more people flock to consoles these days? its a sad fact but a true fact.

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Default 05-08-2012, 18:27 | posts: 492 | Location: Sydney

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Bottom line GPU prices have gotten out of hand considering PC tech is held back cause of alot pc games are ports these days. and those are the only games the push those new overprices cards. there has not been a pc only game that pushed cards since crysis and metro. And I still think crysis was more brutal to gpu when it came out then metro. I have my doubts even when console catch up it will still be same problem of PC tech held back by consoles, cause consles are the lead dev for alot games. till that changes and pc games are the lead and pc games use the tech they actual have i dont see those overprices cards worth it.

But then I dont do 3 monitors or 5x 1080p res 1080p and 4x AA and 60fps is all is need and alot of other people, it just alot people here OC fanatics and 3d surround 3 monitor nitch market so they have that sense that it is the norm.

there a market yes, for the rich people that want the latest and greatest tech to stroke the e-peen those are the people that buy at the ridiculous prices and the people that are leading the cause to why gpu make keep raising there prices 1000$ for mid range dual chip gpu? at this rate in 5 years that will probably be like 1500-2000$.

Is it not a wonder why more people flock to consoles these days? its a sad fact but a true fact.
Wrong.

How do Nvidia price the 690 at $1000 with your reasoning "for the rich people that want the latest and greatest tech to stroke the e-peen those are the people that buy at the ridiculous prices and the people that are leading the cause to why gpu make keep raising there prices 1000$ for mid range dual chip gpu" WHEN IT HADN'T EVEN COME OUT.

On top of this, with your reasoning, these were the prices 5-10 years ago already on top of the line, so with your rate of 5 years, this 690 SHOULD have been $1500-$2000 already.

And everyone stating the 690 is mid-range, show me a physical card that is =/> than the 690. At the moment the 690 is top high-end as they haven't got anything else to push it to mid-range.

EDIT -

Console port or not, there are games/mods/configs out there that WILL cripple your $5000 super computer its just everyone uses their hardware within limits so its always going to look like "you realy only need a 5850 to play BF3" BS...

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Default 05-08-2012, 18:43 | posts: 11,751 | Location: new jersey

I look at it a different way.
Alot of pc gamers with fancy rigs would rather die then lower thier settings or resolutions to console levels to get the games to run faster.
Its those people that do the upgrade to $1000 vga's.

About the price,its should be a few hundred cheaper going by past franken card prices
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 18:56 | posts: 9,022 | Location: United kingdom

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I look at it a different way.
Alot of pc gamers with fancy rigs would rather die then lower thier settings or resolutions to console levels to get the games to run faster.
Its those people that do the upgrade to $1000 vga's.

About the price,its should be a few hundred cheaper going by past franken card prices
Yeah but the previous generations of dual cards used more power,generated more heat and did not overclock as well as there single pcb alternatives.

The technology on the 690 allows all these issues to be sorted out and that is what your paying for,hence the expensive price tag(i dont actually think that its expensive tbh)infact once they start refining keplar technology performance will be even better and prices should be cheaper.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 21:11 | posts: 2,916 | Location: USA

its not wrong, I have watch gpu prices more then triple since the days of 3dfx people buy at the higher and prices so the makes keep trying to price higher and higher.

Case and point would be the ps3 is was 600$ system and people said no way they would buy it yet tons did, while the norma was about 299-399$ and next gen console are gona be more expensive then last and people will still buy it. so next gen will try to raise prices again.

It's no diffrent then what gpu makers have been doing for years.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 21:17 | posts: 1,142 | Location: UK

It's all about the e-peen bro.
   
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Default 05-08-2012, 21:23 | posts: 17,187 | Location: New Jersey, USA

$799 would of been a better price. dual gpu cards have in the past been cheaper than buying 2 physical cards. may of even gotten 1 at that price, I`ll pass, but I`ll refrain from making a new thread crying about it.
   
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