Updates From Guru3D Folders

[sykozis]

The first WU assigned to my 2600K estimated 18hrs to complete....yet my 2400 was doing the same WU in 6hrs. Also makes no sense that my 7870 would only get 8k PPD...which coincidentally is what my 4850 was getting 3 years ago....yet my 560Ti was getting 14-17K PPD with occassional jumps to 24K...

[iancook221188]

i wouldn't compare old and new work unit like that, over the history of the smp client different work unit ppd has change a lot.
that is very strange about the 2400 and the 2600k though.
at the moment im going to let go for a little while(to see what happen). ppd from client to client or wu to wu same vs same the ppd is all over the place at the moment so it also hard to compare that to
the 560 jumping from 14 to 25 is just down to the wu i knot that much it the same as my 460's

[Brasky]

Well, good news, might have figured out my issue, During the initial construction phase of installing waterblocks on cards/motherboard, i had to cut away part of the pci card holder slot, the little piece of plastic you either push up or down in order to fully seat the card. i made sure not to actually cut the part that secures the card, but the handle had to be removed. and the evga hydro copper water blocks are a heavy beast, so I'm guess with the constant movement over the past few months things got jostled loose, so i went in and checked the placement of the cards and they were up and running well, with no odd stoppage except for the 296.10 driver issue that i installed. so today i'll install the old 285.62 driver and then i should be back at full strength again. Hope you enjoyed my rant.

And so, Ideally, This was the only issue.

[k1net1cs]

You won't try 301.24 Beta?
Folds great with my 560 Ti; 'great' as in 'stable'.
No lag whatsoever anymore while folding when doing anything else than folding.
It even backs off quite gracefully when I play 'casual' games (like SPAZ) on it.

[Brasky]

i might, all i know is 296.10 doesn't work at all.

[sykozis]

Thought I finally had all my issues sorted, but seems I need to put my 560Ti back in. The 7870 appears to be struggling. It frequently drops from 100% GPU load to 10% GPU load. This happens every 30sec or so.... Not sure if it's the 12.4 driver or the card itself but at this point I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall.

[k1net1cs]

Originally Posted by sykozis

The 7870 appears to be struggling. It frequently drops from 100% GPU load to 10% GPU load. This happens every 30sec or so....

My guess the drop happens every time it completes a 1% step.
It could be the driver, though.
IIRC my 5770 back then also drops in GPU utilization a bit on every 1% step, but always got back up to 100%; made a funny utilization graph on Afterburner.

In any case, I'd probably cease folding for a day or two.
It's related to regenerating HDDs.
For some reason 1TB WD (Green) drives are always dying out on me, while the two 500GB Seagate and a 2TB Samsung haven't shown its age and still running spiffy.
Luckily HDD drive prices are starting to fall back down, though not pre-flood yet.
Should be enough, regardless.
This is my lossless rips archive I'm talking about, so it's kinda urgent to back these up on a new drive.
No more WD drives for me, though; had enough of those. =/

[sykozis]

Originally Posted by k1net1cs

My guess the drop happens every time it completes a 1% step.
It could be the driver, though.
IIRC my 5770 back then also drops in GPU utilization a bit on every 1% step, but always got back up to 100%; made a funny utilization graph on Afterburner.

In any case, I'd probably cease folding for a day or two.
It's related to regenerating HDDs.
For some reason 1TB WD (Green) drives are always dying out on me, while the two 500GB Seagate and a 2TB Samsung haven't shown its age and still running spiffy.
Luckily HDD drive prices are starting to fall back down, though not pre-flood yet.
Should be enough, regardless.
This is my lossless rips archive I'm talking about, so it's kinda urgent to back these up on a new drive.
No more WD drives for me, though; had enough of those. =/

No, it's not ever 1%.... It happens whether the progress indicator changes or not. After making that last post, I stopped F@H, returned the card to stock clocks and observed the frequency increase to every 10-15sec.

I gained 4K points lastnight and lost 2 spots. Time for the 560Ti to step in and pickup the lost points.

Oh, now I'm seeing flickering when the card switches to idle clocks....so, I'll run the 560Ti to make up a few points then give the 12.3 drivers another shot since they didn't exhibit the same behavior as the 12.4 drivers. At least the card was staying at 46C while folding...unlike the 12.3 drivers where it appeared to actually be stressed and would reach nearly 60C. Sad when WoW could get the card as high as 68C....yet F@H couldn't even break 50C....lol.

I honestly think there's a major flaw in AMD's OpenCL implementation within their drivers. It just doesn't seem like it's working properly.

[k1net1cs]

Originally Posted by sykozis

I honestly think there's a major flaw in AMD's OpenCL implementation within their drivers. It just doesn't seem like it's working properly.

That, or the OpenCL core is also partially at fault.
I mean, why bother having GPU folding if it also utilizes one CPU core no matter what?
A waste of resource, IMO.

[sykozis]

Originally Posted by k1net1cs

That, or the OpenCL core is also partially at fault.
I mean, why bother having GPU folding if it also utilizes one CPU core no matter what?
A waste of resource, IMO.

AMD needs to ditch .Net framework....then they wouldn't need to use that 1 core....

Update: The 560Ti is up to it's old tricks again. Temp is down 10C (58C max) and GPU load is only at 88-90%. Is this due to the R300 drivers or is GPU-Z reading wrong or what????

[PlayN@Home]

Update: The 560Ti is up to it's old tricks again. Temp is down 10C (58C max) and GPU load is only at 88-90%. Is this due to the R300 drivers or is GPU-Z reading wrong or what????[/QUOTE]

The lower GPU load could be the WU. Which WU is your 560ti getting? All of the P76XX WU's that I've been getting have been using about 85% GPU on all of my Nvidia video cards. On GTX 470 and GTX 570 in two different systems. My PPD has dropped about 40K. These new WU's suck on my systems.

[sykozis]

My PPD is fine.

The only work units I've seen it run are P76XX units, but I don't recall them only utilizing 88-90% before. If it's normal I can live with it....just want to make sure it's normal.

[k1net1cs]

Well, just started folding again.

Couldn't believe scanning the damn drive took me 3 days with HDD Regenerator, and the final drive layout almost had nothing but D's and a couple of B's.
Anyone who have ever used HDD Regenerator would know what that means. =/

[Ghost15]

Originally Posted by sykozis

AMD needs to ditch .Net framework....then they wouldn't need to use that 1 core....

Update: The 560Ti is up to it's old tricks again. Temp is down 10C (58C max) and GPU load is only at 88-90%. Is this due to the R300 drivers or is GPU-Z reading wrong or what????

I've been noticing the same 90% load on my video card now that it finally keeps folding instead of erroring out. It's a 465

[k1net1cs]

My folding PC.
No drops in GPU load whatsoever.

[Kaktus]

Ordered the parts for a 3570k setup, bring on some more folding points..

[iancook221188]

cool cool let us no how it folds

[Brasky]

One more post into this thread by me... basically just admitting more faults left and right...
but over the past few weeks after cleaning and undusting/dedusting the computer i got pissed at the folding errors, so today, along with a 6'er of coors light i went to town dusting and replacing the cords into their respective places.. when i found that i misplaced my psu cables from the main 6/8 pin(yellow) and the auxiallary 68 pin (black) so that i ended ended up have the main dedicated pins in the same videocard instead of having the pins staggered like i had before fixed it, and everything is working swimmingly again.

you may ask yourself... why does this giant pile of awesomeness, aka Brasky, keep posting these stupid posts in the folding@home user thread...

Well, because i don't mind admitting my mistakes/errors and hopefully these stupid posts will help someone else along the way.

Also. trying out the new nvidia drivers in the 300 ranges and so far so good.

[iancook221188]

let us know if you think the 300 driver are any good i want to update mine as it been a while since there were good folding driver

not sure what you mean on the 6/8 pin problem but glade you got the problem sorted

[sykozis]

Originally Posted by iancook221188

not sure what you mean on the 6/8 pin problem but glade you got the problem sorted

His power supply has aux connectors that work as either 6pin or 8pin PCIe Aux power connectors. Think of them like 6+2 connectors.....similar to the ATX 20+4 power connector.

[Brasky]

Originally Posted by sykozis

His power supply has aux connectors that work as either 6pin or 8pin PCIe Aux power connectors. Think of them like 6+2 connectors.....similar to the ATX 20+4 power connector.

Exactly, and the 301.24 drivers have been working swimmingly.

[iancook221188]

ok u mean 4 pin molex connector

that good on the driver may have to try them soon

[Kaktus]

So i find the sweet spot for this cpu...

Running 4.7ghz using only 1.3v at 60 odd degress stressed..

Now to see what it's folding like..

[iancook221188]

that a good clock you got there but i would def stress it for a bit longer like over 4 hour at the least

[k1net1cs]

Oh my...just noticed I got the same exact Daily Production for two consecutive days.
What are the odds of that?