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Default 04-29-2012, 17:23 | posts: 4,651 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

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I'd use one, but I have always been skeptical of using one. Reason why, is because I watched a study of them some years back, and it turns out the toxicity of the coating they used back then could be cancerous.

Not to sure what the new ones are like, but I remain skeptical.

Can anyone shed some light on this.


Besides. Cast iron FTW.
Are you talking about Skyrim and Medieval armor or non stick pans.:wink:

So turrrnns out...i may have made the :wink: thing up.

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Default 04-29-2012, 17:32 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

^Oh you must mean this:



See, shes winking.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 17:43 | posts: 4,651 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

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^Oh you must mean this:



See, shes winking.
She must of been cooking on teflon pan while her pet parrot was in he room when a Big Bird t-shirt wearing Jamie Oliver jumped out of giant zip lock bag (which has the same stealth giving properties as Harry Potter's invisibility cloak) and threw a Tefal pan at her.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 17:54 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

WTF! Yeah lets hear it for randomness WHOOO.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 18:12 | posts: 1,716 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

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^Oh you must mean this:



See, shes winking.
she probably won a date with chris brown.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 18:28 | posts: 4,651 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

Obviously not marriage material as it clearly looks as though she's not very good at following instructions.
   
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I know why she got a black eye. She left the kitchen.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 21:17 | posts: 162 | Location: NJ USA

As I recall, the book The Deadly Dinner Party has a chapter on Teflon toxicity at high temperatures.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 21:18 | posts: 13,140 | Location: USA

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I know why she got a black eye. She left the kitchen.
Heh. I see what you did there.
   
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Default 04-29-2012, 21:23 | posts: 16,277 | Location: US East Coast

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As I recall, the book The Deadly Dinner Party has a chapter on Teflon toxicity at high temperatures.
When cooking, excessive heat causes the pan to essentially "sweat out" the teflon coating causing it to be absorbed into the food. Teflon is rather toxic...but thanks to Chevron, we breath in fumes from it constantly as it's used in their gasolines. How toxic it is depends on concentration as is the case with most, if not all, chemicals. The higher the concentration, the more toxic it becomes.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 01:15 | posts: 10,366 | Location: Not Minneapolis

Non-stick is good for eggs but nothing else.

The brown stuff that sticks to the pan is flavor and important for pan sauces and such.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 01:42 | posts: 16,277 | Location: US East Coast

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Non-stick is good for eggs but nothing else.

The brown stuff that sticks to the pan is flavor and important for pan sauces and such.
depends on what you're cooking.....lol
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 10:29 | posts: 3,862 | Location: Australia

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I thought that was Bear grylls version of Jim Beam.
Hmmm, Bear Grills, thats one big barbecue! Non-stick?
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 10:37 | posts: 4,883 | Location: Scotland

I'm a Chef by trade, and the modern non stick pans are pretty decent! The Tefal range especially....

The main reason in the past for then being crap was the fact they were poor heat conductors and the teflon non stick layer lasted about 3days, then started to peel....

But nowa days, they are pretty decent, and for home cooking i'd recommend them over the majority of other pans...

I will say your really cheap non sticks are sheite though, you get what you pay for in most cases
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 10:41 | posts: 5,450 | Location: Funland aka Happycamp aka Finland

People use other than teflon (or other equivalent) pans?
I always put canola oil on it before frying anything on it. The non sticky material isn't THAT good.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 10:57 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

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I'm a Chef by trade, and the modern non stick pans are pretty decent! The Tefal range especially....

The main reason in the past for then being crap was the fact they were poor heat conductors and the teflon non stick layer lasted about 3days, then started to peel....

But nowa days, they are pretty decent, and for home cooking i'd recommend them over the majority of other pans...

I will say your really cheap non sticks are sheite though, you get what you pay for in most cases
Can't beat cast iron, (good cast iron not that nasty cheap galvanized looking carp you get these days). My mum has worked as a pub chef for 14 years (she is 70 now), and she absolutely swears by them.

The only gripe I have with cast iron is that you have to oil them straight away after washing them, or they rust; no biggie.

But yeah, I'm not a big fan of non-stick coatings, I mean, if you don't know how to use oil, butter, water, or sauces to stop food from sticking / burning, you shouldn't be in the kitchen in the first place lol.

Besides, that's what woman are for lol .
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 13:32 | posts: 3,862 | Location: Australia

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...if you don't know how to use oil, butter, water, or sauces...

Besides, that's what woman are for lol .
Don't you put the oil, butter, and sauces on the woman?!

Cheap non-stick is no good. One of the issues with non-stick up until a couple of years ago was the glue used to hold the teflon to the pan. Afterall, making something stick to non-stick isn't easy! that glue wasn't the most ideal thing to have on a hot cooking surface... (I believe they've changed it now, but you never know with cheap imports).

Hard-anodised non-stick is what you want, use plastic (a type of nylon I believe) utensils on it, and still use some oil. I don't think something like a schnitzel would come out very nice without the use of oil! I think the best oil for cooking is sunflower oil. It doesn't have a fatty taste, and makes things nice an crisp

On a completely separate topic about oil... I boguht some Pringles for the first time in a couple of year the other week, they were utter crap compared to what they used to be. The previous Pringles I had were made in Belgium, these were made in the USA. All I could taste was a horrible lardy fatty taste. I looked at the ingredients, and saw they now used a cheapskates blend of 'vegetable oil' (you know, the cheapest stuff from the shop) and it had 4? different oils in it. I believe the soybean and cottonseed (two dirt cheap crappy food oils) were adding to the fowl fatty taste. They are still a little addictive though due to the couple of different flavour enhancers in it. Anyone notice this? from memory I think it was just used to be the much better canola oil used.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 15:36 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

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Don't you put the oil, butter, and sauces on the woman?!
Only during kinkey time

Yeah, the only cooking oil I use is "extra virgin olive oil."

And yeah, chippies have taken a drop in quality since manufactures started using crap ingredients. No amount of "flavor enhancers" can make up for that.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 23:11 | posts: 2,431 | Location: Ottawa, Canada

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My wife's aunt/uncle have birds and so far they've survived just fine in an environment that includes cooking with non-stick pans....
Poeple have also been known to give thier parrots avacado (extremely toxic to parrots) and have them for years. I have also known people to have killed theri parrots after cooking ona gifted set of pans and forgetting about the danger of teflon. NOT all coated pans are teflon so maybe your relatives aren't as careless as you make them aout to be. Do a little research on teflon pans and parrots then tell me what's what.
What's with all the jackassery in this thread any way?? School out early this year?
   
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