Guru3D.com Forums

Go Back   Guru3D.com Forums > Hardware > Processors and motherboards AMD
Processors and motherboards AMD Got a Phenom based system or the means to buy one? You can discuss it in here!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old
  (#26)
Anarion
Ancient Guru
 
Anarion's Avatar
 
Videocard: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K
Mainboard: ASUS P8Z77-V
Memory: G.SKILL RipjawsX 16 GB
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Zx + HD 595
PSU: Corsair AX760
Default 04-28-2012, 01:57 | posts: 11,090 | Location: Finland

Quote:
Originally Posted by sykozis View Post
Go for a 900 series chipset....and a better PSU. 560watt is too low....
Hah! Wait... actually, not sure if serious. 560W Seasonic X too low? Sorry, but it's much closer to overkill than too low.

Just FYI, my old 550W BeQuiet (which is no where near as good PSU as that Seasonic) ran my system (same as bellow but with 2600K @ 4.3 GHz, overclocked GTX 570 and different mobo) without any issues - obviously. Even if he overclocked the CPU, I don't see PSU as limiting factor.

Last edited by Anarion; 04-28-2012 at 02:02.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#27)
morbias
Don Tommasino
 
morbias's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 480
Processor: i7 920 D0 @4.2 GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Memory: 6GB HyperX @1600 6-7-6-18
Soundcard: Audigy 2 ZS + CL 6700's
PSU: ePower Tiger 1200W
Default 04-28-2012, 16:53 | posts: 12,691 | Location: Southampton, UK

Don't forget though that the 8150 uses 50% more power than a 2600K at stock clocks, and when you overclock it it'll scale the power requirement up my a bigger amount than a 2600K, it's probably the least power efficient consumer CPU ever created!


Follow Guru3D on twitter.
Folding@Home - join team Guru3D!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#28)
sykozis
Ancient Guru
 
sykozis's Avatar
 
Videocard: Radeon R7 240
Processor: AMD Athlon 5350
Mainboard: Asus AM1M-A
Memory: 8gb G.Skill DDR3-1866
Soundcard: Creative SB X-Fi Go!
PSU: Unk 300watt
Default 04-28-2012, 17:05 | posts: 16,746 | Location: US East Coast

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion View Post
Hah! Wait... actually, not sure if serious. 560W Seasonic X too low? Sorry, but it's much closer to overkill than too low.

Just FYI, my old 550W BeQuiet (which is no where near as good PSU as that Seasonic) ran my system (same as bellow but with 2600K @ 4.3 GHz, overclocked GTX 570 and different mobo) without any issues - obviously. Even if he overclocked the CPU, I don't see PSU as limiting factor.
You're talking about running a processor that's actually efficient, vs a processor that's power consumption is stupidly high to begin with....and can nearly triple when overclocked... These CPU's can pull upwards of 300watts on their own when overclocked.

Last edited by sykozis; 04-28-2012 at 17:16.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#29)
---TK---
Ancient Guru
 
---TK---'s Avatar
 
Videocard: 780Ti SC SLI/Qnix 2710
Processor: 2600k 4.6Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
Default 04-28-2012, 18:28 | posts: 18,932 | Location: New Jersey, USA

BD the only cpu where you might have to get a couple hundred extra watts on the psu to oc. lol
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#30)
bonob
Master Guru
 
bonob's Avatar
 
Videocard: radeon hd 6970 2 go
Processor: FX 8320/H2O
Mainboard: gigabyte GA 970 UD3 v1.2
Memory: PC3 15000 corsair 8g
Soundcard: VIA HD audio
PSU: Antec HCG 900
Default 04-29-2012, 00:11 | posts: 335 | Location: France

why 90% of the reply in this thread are made by intel users who try to influencing the op while it's clear that intel rig is not an option. After that BD owner are called troll just because they say they are happy with their rig. You guys surely have the bigger one (processor), but in real world of gaming you don't need a cpu with more than 4 core and clocked around 3.5 - 4.0 ghz, until you start using more than one gpu or play at very high res. In the benchmark world intel cpu are the best but in the gaming world a good gpu make the difference and a balance system is the key even a phenom 2 a thuban or a BD CPU can pull out very high fps with the right gpu. Hamstercrispy if you take the fx 8150 it's clear that it will destroy your i5 because the fx 8150 is on par with the i5 2500 and with the recent price drop of it at sub 200 euro the fx start to be a very good chip.

Last edited by bonob; 04-29-2012 at 00:16.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#31)
---TK---
Ancient Guru
 
---TK---'s Avatar
 
Videocard: 780Ti SC SLI/Qnix 2710
Processor: 2600k 4.6Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
Default 04-29-2012, 00:22 | posts: 18,932 | Location: New Jersey, USA

The 8150 is on par with a 2500k for a gaming rig? No way.
I don't see any bd owners in this thread alone nevermind getting trolled in this thread. . 8150 at the same price as the 2500. The 2500k is the best price performance CPU out there.

Last edited by ---TK---; 04-29-2012 at 00:34.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#32)
IcE
Don Snow
 
IcE's Avatar
 
Videocard: Zotac GTX 780
Processor: i5 3570K @4.0
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: 8GB G.Skill Sniper 1866
Soundcard: SBZ + Aune T1 + CAL
PSU: Enermax NAXN 82+ 750W
Default 04-29-2012, 11:41 | posts: 9,309 | Location: Toledo

Quote:
Originally Posted by morbias View Post
Don't forget though that the 8150 uses 50% more power than a 2600K at stock clocks, and when you overclock it it'll scale the power requirement up my a bigger amount than a 2600K, it's probably the least power efficient consumer CPU ever created!
I'm pretty sure Pentium 4 takes that crown. I don't see why Bulldozer's power requirement is that out of the ordinary, Bloomfield easily matched it in this regard as did early K10. It's just more obvious because you can get the processor to clock much higher due to the fabrication process.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#33)
morbias
Don Tommasino
 
morbias's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 480
Processor: i7 920 D0 @4.2 GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Memory: 6GB HyperX @1600 6-7-6-18
Soundcard: Audigy 2 ZS + CL 6700's
PSU: ePower Tiger 1200W
Default 04-29-2012, 12:44 | posts: 12,691 | Location: Southampton, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonob View Post
why 90% of the reply in this thread are made by intel users who try to influencing the op while it's clear that intel rig is not an option. After that BD owner are called troll just because they say they are happy with their rig. You guys surely have the bigger one (processor), but in real world of gaming you don't need a cpu with more than 4 core and clocked around 3.5 - 4.0 ghz, until you start using more than one gpu or play at very high res. In the benchmark world intel cpu are the best but in the gaming world a good gpu make the difference and a balance system is the key even a phenom 2 a thuban or a BD CPU can pull out very high fps with the right gpu. Hamstercrispy if you take the fx 8150 it's clear that it will destroy your i5 because the fx 8150 is on par with the i5 2500 and with the recent price drop of it at sub 200 euro the fx start to be a very good chip.


The 8150 is on par with a 2500K in a good case scenario, but the 2500K costs much less, is more power efficient, and gives way more performance when overclocked. So why would you choose an 8150 over it? Sorry, but that's just the harsh reality of the situation.

But if getting an AMD CPU is important and if you're just going to use the PC for gaming then I agree, why even bother with an 8 core CPU? Just get an FX-4100, it will be more power efficient, overclock higher, and costs half as much meaning you can afford to get a way better GPU.


Follow Guru3D on twitter.
Folding@Home - join team Guru3D!

Last edited by morbias; 04-29-2012 at 12:46.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#34)
sykozis
Ancient Guru
 
sykozis's Avatar
 
Videocard: Radeon R7 240
Processor: AMD Athlon 5350
Mainboard: Asus AM1M-A
Memory: 8gb G.Skill DDR3-1866
Soundcard: Creative SB X-Fi Go!
PSU: Unk 300watt
Default 04-29-2012, 17:09 | posts: 16,746 | Location: US East Coast

Quote:
Originally Posted by ice445 View Post
I'm pretty sure Pentium 4 takes that crown. I don't see why Bulldozer's power requirement is that out of the ordinary, Bloomfield easily matched it in this regard as did early K10. It's just more obvious because you can get the processor to clock much higher due to the fabrication process.
Actually, if you look at the electrical specs, Bulldozer can draw more power than any other consumer processor... Of course, it's next to impossible to draw the full possible wattage from the socket (1700watts would ignite the processor)....but when overclocked they can easily overdraw any other consumer processor.

FX-4100 and FX-6100 are pretty respectible though in regards to power draw when compared to FX-8150.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#35)
randomizer
Maha Guru
 
Videocard: XFX 280X OC
Processor: I5 3570K
Mainboard: Asus P8z77-V LX
Memory: G.Skill Ares 16GB(8x2)
Soundcard:
PSU: Corsair HX650
Default 05-03-2012, 02:15 | posts: 821 | Location: Melbourne AUS

I hope AMD employees are looking at this thread.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#36)
john19055
Newbie
 
Videocard: Gigabyte 3-HD5870-1GB
Processor: i7 920-4.2g
Mainboard:
Memory:
Soundcard:
PSU: CoolerMaster 1100watts
Default 05-03-2012, 16:45 | posts: 5

I have never been a AMD or Intel or Nvidia or ATI Fanboy.I just buy what is the best bang for the buck.But IMO the FX-8150 was just dissapointing.It has 8 cores and it uses more power and in over 90% of reviews shows that a i5-2500 is the best deal.I give AND credit they are trying new things and maybe with a new stepping things will get better.Just look at thiers GPU's for a long time it look like they would never catch up to nvidia but now they are on par granted they go back and forth now,but the HD7970 and HD7950 are great GPUs.I remember when Intel came out with there Pentium 4 and I went stright to a Athlon XP CPU because it was the best gameing chip for the bulk.I went with a Sandy-bridge-E i7-3820 simply because I was running a TRI-SLI set-up and love it .Overclocks to 5.3gigs at 1.425v but runs in the mid 80c in prim95 with a 212 EVO cooler and a push-pull fan set-up.I keep it at 4.3gigs at default voltage 1.23v,and it idles at 23c to 26c and running prime95 the highest core was 51c.I thinking of getting a water cooler so I can play with it more and run it at 5gigs for the heck of it because it is plenty fast at 4.3gigs.IMO if I was just wanting a gameing CPU I would go with the Ivory-brifge i5-3570K ,but a i5-2500K may be more overclock friendly.But the FX-8150 is plenty fast enough to play any game ,just up to you with what you want to buy.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#37)
Mufflore
Ancient Guru
 
Mufflore's Avatar
 
Videocard: KFA2 Anarchy 580@930/4650
Processor: 2500K @ 4.5GHz - blew it!
Mainboard: Gigabyte P67 UD4 B3
Memory: 8G Kngston 2.2GHz CL11 1T
Soundcard: Minimax+ & Dexa Opamps !!
PSU: Corsair Pro AX750
Default 05-03-2012, 17:44 | posts: 9,769 | Location: UK

Ivory Brifge, must be a new CPU.
   
Reply With Quote
Dont mind the trolls
Old
  (#38)
Mileunder
Newbie
 
Videocard: XFX 5770 1GB x2
Processor: Phenom II X4 925 @ 3.6
Mainboard: Asrock M3A770ODE
Memory: Adata 12GB @ 1600
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DG
PSU: BFG 850 continous
Cool Dont mind the trolls - 05-04-2012, 02:41 | posts: 39 | Location: Texas

If you want to get a 8150 go ahead. I suggest the 8120 though, just oc it to the clocks of the 8150, there virtually the same. And everyone here saying that the 8150 is a terrible processor is lying. When you compare it to Intels i5 2500k then no, its not as good. But when you compare it to a athlon, or a first gen i3 then its leaps and bounds better. The 8150 is perfectly fine for gaming. And before anyone says "Your on AMD`s pay roll" , im not. Ive had my fair share of intel products and loved them. I just love rooting for the underdog

And anyone who says the 8120 cant play games is a troll. I have a old phenom II x4 925 at stock clocks and i can play games at max settings at 1080p. So the 8150 will easily do the same .
What ever you choose, good luck : D
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright (c) 1995-2014, All Rights Reserved. The Guru of 3D, the Hardware Guru, and 3D Guru are trademarks owned by Hilbert Hagedoorn.