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Default 04-04-2012, 18:13 | posts: 14,941 | Location: New Jersey, USA

Give it a rest you are clearly wrong about i3. I am just going to ignore your posts from now on. Geez
   
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Default 04-04-2012, 18:15 | posts: 2,897 | Location: Denmark

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Its true, I did say that, but it all depends on what you are comparing it to. The FX processors are by no means comparable to a i5 or i7, but the FX-6100 which is what the original poster queried about, does fair pretty well against the i3 and is faster for some things than the i3, and the i3 faster at others. This is of course meaning a discrete GPU would be required. Without a discrete GPU, the GPU inside the i3 is just a little sluggish at times, and this is something that your wouldn't want on any computer. This is why I suggested the APU's, because they do have a suitable GPU.
FX-6100 is about the same price as an i5 2100 with a discrete GPU added on the side.
i3 2100 + HD5454 816,- + 229,- DKK
FX-6100 985,- DKK

For real GPU workload you would slap a real GPU in anyway.

While having a multi threading advantage, the FX series sucks at single thread operations compared to the i3.

I bet that the applications used in the clinic are mainly single threaded and dual at max.

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Default 04-04-2012, 18:19 | posts: 2,968 | Location: Australia

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OK, this is silly. The i3 aren't crap by any means of the word. You can't get yourself to justify that statement, can you?!

Office solutions need not worry about 4/6/8/50 core processors as so few options (CS5 64-bit and a handful of random programs) will truly thread multiple cores. Your office solution is fine with the i3. Upgrades will be much easier than messing with FM1 sockets for the time being.

AMD CPU/APU offerings aren't remotely close to being as efficient as they should be. I wouldn't call them garbage, but look at their price points. You think they're giving away their top-tier processors for so little without a good reason? Sandy Bridge is wiping the Earth clean with AMD's moniker. If you want to doubt it, by all means.

This is coming from a guy running a 5000+BE. I'd wait a little longer for Intel's next lineup to debut and see where price points lead you. At this point, however, your best bet is Intel.
Remember, the i3 is quite literally at best only half as good as an i5, and this is why certain AMD's start to become viable. The GPU inside the i3 isn't exactly a high end performer, and can struggle with the Windows 7 interface (turning off aero of some of the aero features should not be an option) and can struggle with graphics on webpages etc. The AMD APU's from the reviews actually have a lower idle CPU power usage, and for general computing use and for what the original poster wants it for, the computer will most likely be in idle or close to idle for most of the time. It can surely handle an antivirus and a patient record program.
   
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Default 04-04-2012, 19:20 | posts: 1,867 | Location: Réunion

I'd say get an i3. If the software they're gonna use is multithreaded though, an i5 would be a better buy. Llano CPUs aren't bad at all, since they're cheaper than i5s in my country, so you might choose them instead. That said, they're not as fast as i5s clock for clock.

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All Phenom II Northbridges will run 2400Mhz on stock volts.

AMD deliberately made this possible so the CPU could benefit from 1600Mhz RAM.

Mine is currently sitting at 2800Mhz...




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AM3 Phenom's, not AM2+.
Sadly enough, mine won't run at 2400 MHz at stock volts. Anything above that has proved to result in a big, nice fail. Anything I should know about overclocking the IMC?
   
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Default 04-15-2012, 23:34 | posts: 171

What kind of programs is your Dad's clinic running? Any heavy number crunching? For general office use, I'd go with the Llano (an nice A6 or A8 should do), if you need a bit of number crunching power, I'd go Intel.
   
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Default 04-16-2012, 00:01 | posts: 18,946 | Location: Toronto, Canada

I would just get this for a standard office PC (prices from NewEgg because I have no clue how Danish prices are):
AMD A6-3650 $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103943
ASRock A75M $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157260
G.Skill 2 x 2 GB DDR3-1333 CL9 F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK ($29.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231180
Cooler Master Elite 360 w/ 350W Thermal Master 350W PSU (RC-360-KKR1, $49.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119205
Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB HDD ($72.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152181
LG GH24NS90 DVD-Writer ($17.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136247

Subtotal: US$355.94

For an office machine, you don't really need more than that. This should already be considered overkill for even a doctor's office. It's the best balancing of power and price.

Anything more than this, especially with all the bickering going on is fruitless as everyone else seems to be thinking about gaming and not what is actually needed which is office work.

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Default 04-16-2012, 00:04 | posts: 14,941 | Location: New Jersey, USA

OP has not been on here since 4/5, think its a dead thread
   
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