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AMD Sapphire 7970 Atomic 1335mhz + possible 2304SP 7980?
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Default AMD Sapphire 7970 Atomic 1335mhz + possible 2304SP 7980? - 12-30-2011, 17:47 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Switzerland

Chippell again, but they find that., its a list from Sapphire who look really official. Ofc take it with caution, nothing confirm yet this.

But look on the top of the list, there's a 2304SP model....

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-336984-1-1.html

for the high end model, Atomic RX

- 2048SP
- GPU 1335mhz
- 3gb of memory.




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Default 12-30-2011, 17:57 | posts: 289 | Location: the internets

could be true..considering how the 7970 hilbert reviewed managed to work at 1250mhz without any over voltage..
   
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This is why i always wait 3-4 months to get any "new" architectured part. If this is true and it being a 7970/7980/7975 or whatever it will be called it will be prolly ~10% faster then a stock 7970 with 2048sp?!? Oh this should be good to see the fight for the top with nvidia.. Goooo ATi!
   
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Default 12-30-2011, 18:25 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Switzerland

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This is why i always wait 3-4 months to get any "new" architectured part. If this is true and it being a 7970/7980/7975 or whatever it will be called it will be prolly ~10% faster then a stock 7970 with 2048sp?!? Oh this should be good to see the fight for the top with nvidia.. Goooo ATi!
its absolutely not sure, it can have been a sample test, or even a typo..
now if we look the other SI cards, 7950 - 28CU, 7970 - 32CU > this one 36CU (64vertex ALU 1D / CU )

but well, the 1335mhz Atomic will allready bring a lot of power, 400mhz more...

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damn. i would love to see the benchmarks on 2 of these crossfired. oc'd to hell and back of course.
   
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Default 12-30-2011, 20:38 | posts: 5,510 | Location: Belgium

Why 1335 Mhz and not 1337? Surely they could've squeezed out that 2 extra Mhz for the lulz.
   
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Default 12-30-2011, 20:49 | posts: 3,714

'Atomic WC'...why do I keep imagining nuclear-powered latrines?
   
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Why 1335 Mhz and not 1337? Surely they could've squeezed out that 2 extra Mhz for the lulz.
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Default 12-30-2011, 23:23 | posts: 3,087

Toxic ZX and Da Original with 2304 shaders i.e. 36 CU...hmm

Yup, that would explain large transistor count and somewhat underwhelming performance.
   
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yup +410mhz OC over stock
   
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small price for early adopters
   
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Default 12-31-2011, 11:00 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Switzerland

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Toxic ZX and Da Original with 2304 shaders i.e. 36 CU...hmm

Yup, that would explain large transistor count and somewhat underwhelming performance.
If you read the interview of Eric Demers on Rage3D, he states different CU, ROP, etc have been tested. So we can assume the 36CU one was maybe part of thoses tests, but if it have been not choose, could well be a question of TDP and clock speed.. passing a point you need make a choice and this choice is cost/TDP/performance-clockspeed.... a 1175mhz can pass 11K in 3Dmark11 with a decent CPU OC ( 3930K ), and ofc with "optimisation we are using when bench ( not review ), no AA, no AF, no mipmap etc.. Imagine the result at 1335mhz for the Sapphire one.

Anyway, internal source confirm, there's no 36CU in the core, only 32CU..
The large size is due to all the extra cache, the new ALU 1D and all the compute parts ( Scalar etc ). memorybus etc

With just the max overdrive OC on actual cards, the 7970 go beat 6990 and 590 easy.

About performance gain, again read the Eric Demers Interview, there's some funny information on upcoming gain in all parts for the next 3 months, they need a bit of time, as the code generate by the card is completely different of the old one. They are still a lot to discover on optimisation for this cards..

1150mhz 11K 3Dmark11
http://hwbot.org/submission/2236252_...70_11126_marks

One thing is sure the card is really scaling extremely well with clock speed.

1125mhz 10K 3Dmark11

http://hwbot.org/submission/2234240_...70_10762_marks

more serious, 15K 1700mhz
http://hwbot.org/newsflash/1578_upda...age_single_gpu

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Default 12-31-2011, 14:31 | posts: 7,512 | Location: GTA, Canada

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Why 1335 Mhz and not 1337? Surely they could've squeezed out that 2 extra Mhz for the lulz.
They've truly lost their way if what they do is no longer for the lulz.
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1.7GHz?! What did he put it on? Liquid helium?
   
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Default 12-31-2011, 15:13 | posts: 19 | Location: Malaysia

few months before radeon hd 7970 released, all news said that AMD top of the card will be have a liquid cooling system or somewhat new redesigned vapor chamber and the news also said the performance will be as twice faster speed compare with radeon hd 6990 dual gpu..............................and now where the card AMD!
   
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Default 12-31-2011, 15:21 | posts: 1,027 | Location: 7855' N, 1156' E

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If you read the interview of Eric Demers on Rage3D, he states different CU, ROP, etc have been tested. So we can assume the 36CU one was maybe part of thoses tests, but if it have been not choose, could well be a question of TDP and clock speed.. passing a point you need make a choice and this choice is cost/TDP/performance-clockspeed.... a 1175mhz can pass 11K in 3Dmark11 with a decent CPU OC ( 3930K ), and ofc with "optimisation we are using when bench ( not review ), no AA, no AF, no mipmap etc.. Imagine the result at 1335mhz for the Sapphire one.

Anyway, internal source confirm, there's no 36CU in the core, only 32CU..
The large size is due to all the extra cache, the new ALU 1D and all the compute parts ( Scalar etc ). memorybus etc

With just the max overdrive OC on actual cards, the 7970 go beat 6990 and 590 easy.

About performance gain, again read the Eric Demers Interview, there's some funny information on upcoming gain in all parts for the next 3 months, they need a bit of time, as the code generate by the card is completely different of the old one. They are still a lot to discover on optimisation for this cards..

1150mhz 11K 3Dmark11
http://hwbot.org/submission/2236252_...70_11126_marks

One thing is sure the card is really scaling extremely well with clock speed.

1125mhz 10K 3Dmark11

http://hwbot.org/submission/2234240_...70_10762_marks

more serious, 15K 1700mhz
http://hwbot.org/newsflash/1578_upda...age_single_gpu

*UT3 announcer voice*

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Why 1335 Mhz and not 1337? Surely they could've squeezed out that 2 extra Mhz for the lulz.
When i read 1335mhz, i was thinking the exact same thing, 1337 would have gotten a little more attention.
And then 10 years from now, they can release a new card that's clocked at 9001 mhz, and it'll still be awesome.
   
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Default 12-31-2011, 16:12 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Switzerland

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They've truly lost their way if what they do is no longer for the lulz.

1.7GHz?! What did he put it on? Liquid helium?
"Just" LN2

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few months before radeon hd 7970 released, all news said that AMD top of the card will be have a liquid cooling system or somewhat new redesigned vapor chamber and the news also said the performance will be as twice faster speed compare with radeon hd 6990 dual gpu..............................and now where the card AMD!
Dont worry, any 7970 from AIB, as Asus, MSI, Sapphire, HIS who will come with 1150+mhz, will eat the 590 and 6990 for the breakfast.. lets alone the 1335mhz version..( maybe not across all the game but well..) Dont forget too, new architecture, new heuristic, only 1 driver ( the press one ).

Just look the OC review of Guru3D..

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Default 12-31-2011, 16:42 | posts: 4,826 | Location: Land of the Great Downunder

hmm, on the bright side, the flex 6g gives away the entire specs for the 7990. looks like it will be running at full speed, like the 6990.
   
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