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Default 07-17-2011, 07:44 | posts: 57 | Location: WNY

Its all a matter of opinion. Right now Amd and Nvidia are pretty even. Just look at the reviews and pick the best you can afford.

Personally I have had more driver issues with Nvidia than Amd, but everybody's setup is different... I have had mx440, fx5200, 9600 pro, 7600gt sli, 6800nu, 8800gt sli, gtx260, hd5850, hd6870.



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Default 07-17-2011, 09:56 | posts: 8,111 | Location: United Kingdom

Obvious troll thread... lmao, I kinda miss not reading through the nvidia section as much anymore, it's always funny reading the usual "I love Nvidia" crap left right and centre. Then you get the same people coming on the ATI section going on about how much ATI sucks.
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 10:25 | posts: 2,005

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Obvious troll thread... lmao, I kinda miss not reading through the nvidia section as much anymore, it's always funny reading the usual "I love Nvidia" crap left right and centre. Then you get the same people coming on the ATI section going on about how much ATI sucks.
Hypocrite.
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 10:34 | posts: 23,950 | Location: NZ

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Obvious troll thread... lmao, I kinda miss not reading through the nvidia section as much anymore, it's always funny reading the usual "I love Nvidia" crap left right and centre. Then you get the same people coming on the ATI section going on about how much ATI sucks.
Dunno about all that....

Discussion in the Nvidia camp is more like a quiet Sunday picnic compared to the war zone over in the ATI section...
I bet I could link at least 3 closed ATI threads if you asked me to...
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 10:38 | posts: 8,111 | Location: United Kingdom

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Hypocrite.
ergh...what?


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Dunno about all that....

Discussion in the Nvidia camp is more like a quiet Sunday picnic compared to the war zone over in the ATI section...
I bet I could link at least 3 closed ATI threads if you asked me to...

My point exactly, ATi section threads being closed are all about how much ATI sucks, generally nvidia owners putting their views across and here we get the complete opposite, same people mostly though.


lmao, remember the "We love nvidia" thread or was it "nvida appreciation thread" we had a few weeks back?

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Default 07-17-2011, 10:39 | posts: 5,489

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Obvious troll thread... lmao, I kinda miss not reading through the nvidia section as much anymore, it's always funny reading the usual "I love Nvidia" crap left right and centre. Then you get the same people coming on the ATI section going on about how much ATI sucks.
It was always my impression that ATI folk linger around the Nvidia board far more than the other way around. Hordes of trolls invaded this section when fermi was delayed and had nothing better to do than yell "Nvidia epic fail" over and over while beaming with their new AMD 5xxx series cards. I guess they had to make up for the years of being second best since the 8800 series days. Nvidia now are top with their single cards yet we still have the occasional butt-hurt AMD fan who may resent that. Of course this apart from the many legitimate AMD owners looking for and switching to the green side and not looking back.

To OP, the 560ti is faster than the 6870 but costs more. So base what you want according to your budget.
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 10:45 | posts: 8,111 | Location: United Kingdom

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Of course this apart from the many legitimate AMD owners looking for and switching to the green side and not looking back.
Not sure about the looking back part, but I always buy whats best at the time, After my gtx 295 died I had the choice of a 570 or 6950, seeing as the 570 cost an extra 50 at the time (late january) and the 6950 could be unlocked to a 6970, I went for the best card at that price point, regardless of what company it was. Haven't had any more or less issues than with my previous 4-5 Nvidia cards.

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To OP, the 560ti is faster than the 6870 but costs more. So base what you want according to your budget.
You got the wrong thread.
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 11:07 | posts: 23,950 | Location: NZ

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Not sure about the looking back part, but I always buy whats best at the time, After my gtx 295 died I had the choice of a 570 or 6950, seeing as the 570 cost an extra 50 at the time (late january) and the 6950 could be unlocked to a 6970, I went for the best card at that price point, regardless of what company it was. Haven't had any more or less issues than with my previous 4-5 Nvidia cards.
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I dislike Nvidia's marketing tactics, tbh I'd prefer an ATI card when my 8800 is upgraded but they don't have the software support Nvidia has.
Even just trying to find chipset drivers requires a fair bit of navigation on AMD's site...

The recent nForce chipsets haven't impressed me either, hence the reason I went with AMD this time. My last 4 boards were all nForce btw...

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Default 07-17-2011, 12:10 | posts: 8,111 | Location: United Kingdom

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I dislike Nvidia's marketing tactics, tbh I'd prefer an ATI card when my 8800 is upgraded but they don't have the software support Nvidia has.
Even just trying to find chipset drivers requires a fair bit of navigation on AMD's site...

The recent nForce chipsets haven't impressed me either, hence the reason I went with AMD this time. My last 4 boards were all nForce btw...
Well, tbh I always thought the same but thanks to some newer software like Radeonpro my ati/amd expereince hasn't been that bad. My last 3 boards were nforce aswell due to sli limitations, those were exceptionally bad chipsets.
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 12:45 | posts: 2,767 | Location: Belgium

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The recent nForce chipsets haven't impressed me either
Recent... Actually, it's been almost two frikking years since Nvidia has stopped making nForce chipsets. http://www.guru3d.com/news/nvidia-ha...force-chipsets
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 17:47 | posts: 118

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Dunno about all that....

Discussion in the Nvidia camp is more like a quiet Sunday picnic compared to the war zone over in the ATI section...
I bet I could link at least 3 closed ATI threads if you asked me to...
LOL I thought very much the same when i checked out both threads but much preferred your war zone/picnic analogy to mine..


I would like to try Nvidia again it's been a few years but it really depends on who comes out with what first.
I've heard the HD7000 series will be out before Christmas but GTX600 series might have slipped to Q1 2012.
I want to be able to play battlefield3 in all it's glory as well as Crysis2 and while my HD5870 are 'fine' they don't like the 2560 x 1600 Resolution I now run games in. The HD5870 Lack enough on-board memory for the ultra high res.
   
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Default 07-17-2011, 18:19 | posts: 23,950 | Location: NZ

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Recent... Actually, it's been almost two frikking years since Nvidia has stopped making nForce chipsets. http://www.guru3d.com/news/nvidia-ha...force-chipsets
1.5 years actually, which isn't very long when you've owned nearly every nForce chipset since the nforce2, like me.

Now have you got a point to make or are you deliberately trying to be a wanker?
   
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Default 07-21-2011, 15:05 | posts: 2,767 | Location: Belgium

^ Old hardware is old. Minor releases are even older, especially if they sucked. lol...
   
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Default 07-21-2011, 15:53 | posts: 7,499 | Location: GTA, Canada

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Look at the GTX570. It's cheaper than the 6970 and on par/slightly better. So this expensive kind of legend is bull****. If you wanna brag that you have the most powerful GPU in the universe the cough up more bucks.
Well I'd compare it directly to a 2GB 6950 since that unlocks to a full 6970. When I was shopping the prices on the 570 were outrageous. 99% of the 2GB 6950s don't use defective cores, otherwise people wouldn't be getting the same overclocks the ones branded 6970 get. I know mine can pull at least 1015MHz on the core. Probably 1650MHz on the memory... I don't know why they use the double/quarter number, they should call it the real number of 825MHz or the multiplied (8x) number of 6.6GHz. At that OC it's comparable to a GTX 580, maybe even passes it in some things, not bad.

But due to driver issues and overall features I would recommend the 570 especially now that it's cheaper. My favourite filtering was combined MSAA and SSAA which can be done with 3rd party programs on nVidia cards but no such program exists for AMD cards.

As for myself even if they were the same price now and I had to choose I'm not sure which one I would pick because I'm one of the few people that gets good use out of MLAA. As soon as a good HD TV tuner/capture card is available at a sane price I'll buy that, meaning I can apply MLAA over console games so they can finally stop making my eyes bleed.

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Default 07-21-2011, 20:50 | posts: 753 | Location: close to the edge

Every card is overclockable to certain degree. If you wanna push it and prepare to take the risk (unlocking AMD 6950 or the apparent problems with the GTX570 VRMs) you can up the performance close to a higher priced card. My last card was a GTX275 Oced to 732 MHz core, performance wise in the category of a GTX285 then the flagship on Nvidia and much more expensive. But if you do comparison price/performance you do on stock clocks. The 6970 did not turned out so great as the AMD fanbois were expecting so it ended up competing in performance with the 570, a lower priced card. That's all.
   
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The 6970 did not turned out so great as the AMD fanbois were expecting so it ended up competing in performance with the 570, a lower priced card. That's all.
No need to stir the pot mate.
   
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Good. I take it back.
   
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Default 07-21-2011, 23:25 | posts: 153 | Location: Durban South Africa

NVIDIA [U]is[U] definitely the way it's ment to be played
   
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Default 07-24-2011, 09:02 | posts: 307

AFAIK, in my country, at the moment GeForce cards are extremely competitively priced. I can get a GTX 460 1GB for less than a 6850, a 550 Ti for the same price as 5770/6770.

NVIDIA Fermi has better texture filtering than most AMD cards right up to the 68xx series (don't know about the 69xx). In games like Serious Sam HD, it really shows. It's your decision in the end - but Radeon cards *do* have a noticeably lower power consumption than GeForce cards right now.

BTW, I've had 3 AMD nForce boards - the 570 SLI, the 730a/GeForce 8300 and the 980a. All 3 have been nothing short of brilliant. I don't know about NVIDIA's Intel chipsets, but their AMD chipsets have always been rock solid. I'd even say the 730a was NVIDIA's best chipset ever. Can't say I was happy to see them leave the business, despite nForce not supporting CrossFire - the USB and SATA controllers were pretty good compared to the AMD alternatives at the time.

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Default 07-24-2011, 15:31 | posts: 2,520 | Location: Milan, Italy

I had a 680iLT with a Q6600... It was the ****tiest board I've ever seen, the BIOS was all over the place, tiny overclocks required huge voltage bumps ( and I tried the same CPU in a different board, it overclocked perfectly normally) and it crashed so often I had just given up on overclocking entirely. I had terrible luck with that generation actually. I remember I bought a P35 which was ****, then I got a 680iLT which was also **** Finally I got an X48 Rampage Formula and that was ****ing awesome
   
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Default 07-24-2011, 16:36 | posts: 9,775 | Location: UK

I moved from CF 5770 to a GTX580.
Night and day difference for me, although the comparison doesnt 'seem' fair going from 2 cards to one.
Many of the ATI issues werent crossfire related but its fair to say that CF was problematic.
The hardware was fine, the drivers werent.
I had to rely on a modded driver made by TwL for stability/performance because the new driver releases werent as good/stable.

I went from a resigned state and not even wanting to try new drivers (except TwLs) to having great fun again and looking forward to new driver releases.
This post isnt intended to be a flame, its hard to say my experience without qualifying it.
   
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Default 07-24-2011, 19:26 | posts: 1,022

Does the OP's comment or the Thread's name has any relevant question/query or intellectually informative to exist to give detailed indepth information, apart from OP's experience(which I doubt) and is there in the near future a probable & possible definitive answer to the ignorant question;

Q: "What's the deal with these Nvidia cards?"

I was like LOL..
   
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Default 07-24-2011, 20:07 | posts: 1,242 | Location: Melbourne, FL

Q: What's the deal with these Nvidia cards?

Um, they're awesome? except the FX 5xxx series
   
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