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Intel Series 6 Chipset Flaw Discovered
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Default Intel Series 6 Chipset Flaw Discovered - 01-31-2011, 15:50 | posts: 1,070

INTC Halted; Chip Flaw Hits Gross Margin; Raises Q1, Year View

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...d=yahoobarrons
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As part of ongoing quality assurance, Intel Corporation has discovered a design issue in a recently released support chip, the Intel® 6 Series, code-named Cougar Point, and has implemented a silicon fix. In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives. The chipset is utilized in PCs with Intel’s latest Second Generation Intel Core processors, code-named Sandy Bridge. Intel has stopped shipment of the affected support chip from its factories. Intel has corrected the design issue, and has begun manufacturing a new version of the support chip which will resolve the issue. The Sandy Bridge microprocessor is unaffected and no other products are affected by this issue.

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Default 01-31-2011, 16:01 | posts: 4,685 | Location: Washington DC

In the text you quoted, it says Sandy Bridge is unaffected in the very last sentence.
Fix your thread title.
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 16:14 | posts: 16 | Location: Grand Rapids, MI

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In the text you quoted, it says Sandy Bridge is unaffected in the very last sentence.
Fix your thread title.
I read the official release. I would change the thread to title to "Intel 6 series chipset flaw discovered". SB is the cpu, CP is the chipset. You can't have one without the other yet though... One of those early adopter bewares.
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 16:30 | posts: 1,070

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I read the official release. I would change the thread to title to "Intel 6 series chipset flaw discovered". SB is the cpu, CP is the chipset. You can't have one without the other yet though... One of those early adopter bewares.
That's good I like that one.

Still no one else seems to be covering this story yet so I don't know how true it is.

If it is though that would mean a motherboard recall from all manufacturers wouldn't it?
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 16:32 | posts: 11,901 | Location: new jersey

Its all over the news some other crap too

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...tel.Chip.Flaw/

This case it does not matter that it is not sb but just the boards you need to run them.

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Default 01-31-2011, 16:43 | posts: 1,070

It would be nice if they said it was only the H67 chipsets,......
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 16:56 | posts: 1,130 | Location: Alberta Canada

Im returning my P67 board today along with everything else and waiting for a fixed version...

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/n...over-chip.html
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:10 | posts: 11,901 | Location: new jersey

how you doing that?
like mb cpu ram the whole shabang?

hmmmm thats what i might do lol
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:18 | posts: 1,070

If intel stock went down a little because of this it might be a good idea to buy some stock now. When it starts going up again sell, sell, sell,....

I don't mind returning my ASUS P8P67 Pro if I can make a buck or two off of the stock. I could make enough for the new intel hardware to be free,...or more,...LOL
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:22 | posts: 1,130 | Location: Alberta Canada

Yep the whole thing. Can't do anything with a CPU if I don't have a mobo to put it in. They said volume shipments by April so Im' gonna wait...
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:29 | posts: 13,247 | Location: USA

"may degrade over time" keyword being MAY. that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen at all. just better to be safe than sorry i guess
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:29 | posts: 11,901 | Location: new jersey

well then me too!
its going to be a tough two weeks for the stuff i just got... unless its a good chip he he
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:30 | posts: 173 | Location: CT

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/intel-...57?tag=nl.e539


LGA1366 FTW
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:32 | posts: 1,070

I bought my Core i5 2500k and ASUS P8P67 Pro in a combo deal from Microcenter. So if I were returning I guess it would be EZ to return them both.

I wonder when they are going to stop selling these boards?

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O hell.... Its covered in the waranty anyway isn't it?
Can I just use it until the new revision come and then return it?
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:35 | posts: 13,247 | Location: USA

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O hell.... Its covered in the waranty anyway isn't it?
Can I just use it until the new revision come and then return it?
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i dont see why you couldnt . maybe give whoever you got your stuff from a call and find out from them
   
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Wow glad I waited on building a new rig
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:37 | posts: 11,901 | Location: new jersey

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"may degrade over time" keyword being MAY. that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen at all. just better to be safe than sorry i guess
its only been a month that they were out so how long could they have tested it?
What would be better is if they said "it blow your sit up man!!!"
   
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The tech guy I spoke to (at my retailer - scan UK) just got off the phone to someone at Intel.... he said most users won't be affected for the life of the board (whatever that means).
So I doubt it'll be exploding anytime soon... just use it and enjoy it as you have been doing!
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:42 | posts: 1

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That's good I like that one.

Still no one else seems to be covering this story yet so I don't know how true it is.

If it is though that would mean a motherboard recall from all manufacturers wouldn't it?
Here's the official Intel Press Release: Intel Identifies Chipset Design Error, Implementing Solution

So yes, it's very true.
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:42 | posts: 1,130 | Location: Alberta Canada

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The tech guy I spoke to (at my retailer - scan UK) just got off the phone to someone at Intel.... he said most users won't be affected for the life of the board (whatever that means).
So I doubt it'll be exploding anytime soon... just use it and enjoy it as you have been doing!
Now that I know about this I dont' think I could enjoy my new gear anymore whether it affects it or not...
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 17:57 | posts: 1,070

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All shipments have been stopped and a fix has been implemented for new deliveries, but it sounds like recalls will be starting soon for those with this ticking time bomb silicon within. It isn't a critical problem right now, though, so if you own a Sandy Bridge Core i5 or Core i7 system keep computing with confidence while looking for a recall notice, but it is bad news for Intel's bottom line: the company is advising a $300 million hit to revenue
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/i...ments-stopped/

I checked my Microcenter reciept and the date was 1-11-2011 With 30 days to return. However, I could live with just sending back the board to ASUS via an official recall. Maybe I should think on it for a while. I'v got ~10 days. I wonder if Microcenter will wave the restocking fee. Maybe I'll call them.
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 18:13 | posts: 1,130 | Location: Alberta Canada

Who says there's gonna be a recall? It's going to be handled quietly I'm guessing...
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 18:21 | posts: 267 | Location: Round Rock, Tx

There IS a work around! The flaw ONLY manifests in the 3Gbs SATA ports. ESATA and 6Gbs ports are unaffected. Moving all devices to 6Gbs ports avoids the issue all together.

They're not getting my board back. I love it, and I don't need the 3Gbs ports anyway.
   
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Default 01-31-2011, 18:40 | posts: 1,070

I still have to think about it.

I bought my hardware as part of a bundle deal from Microcenter:

Intel Core i5 2500k = $179.99
ASUS P8P67 Pro = $159.99

That was a great deal with about ~$30 savings on the motherboard and more on the the CPU. I also have no problems with the system, it's great. I have three SSD units on the Intel SATA 3G ports thoughn in RAID 0 hitting ~739.4 MB/sec max ~719.0 MB/sec ave.

I was thinking of adding another and making it a 4x64GB 256GB SSD RAID 0 array which might hit ~1000 MB/sec.
   
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