Will an Intel E7400 bottleneck a GTX 460?

mariowarrior777 · **Will an Intel E7400 bottleneck a GTX 460? -** 10-10-2010, 17:56 | posts: 9

Hi guys, I would appreciate it very much if you can help me with my dilemma. I would like to know if a standard Nvidia GTX 460 will be too much for the following system:

Processor: Intel E7400
Motherboard: Asrock G31M-S R2.0
Memory: Hynix 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400
Hard drive: Western Digital 3200AAJS
Power supply: 600watts generic, but I’m going to get a Corsair HX650W
Monitor: Acer 17” V173 1280X1024 pixels
OS: Windows 7 ultimate 32-bit

Can you tell me if my processor will bottleneck the GTX 460? If so, Should I get a GTS 450 instead? Should I get better and more ram, perhaps 4 GBs? Thank you in advance your help.

---TK--- · 10-10-2010, 18:12 | posts: 14,736 | Location: New Jersey, USA

cpu overclocked? 2gb of ram? low resolution I am going to say yes. my recomondation is more system ram, overclock the cpu, and get a 64bit operating system. the bottleneck isnt great but is there. the lower the resolution the greater it is

mariowarrior777 · 10-10-2010, 18:48 | posts: 9

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Originally Posted by tommyk2005

cpu overclocked? 2gb of ram? low resolution I am going to say yes. my recomondation is more system ram, overclock the cpu, and get a 64bit operating system. the bottleneck isnt great but is there. the lower the resolution the greater it is

Thank you for your suggestions. What about a GTS 450 then? I can get the ram and the 64bit system but I'm not sure about OCing the CPU, I would probably have to buy a fan since I'm running a stock fan.

---TK--- · *Last edited by ---TK---; 10-10-2010 at 18:58.*

I would still get the cheapest 460 you can get. that way when you upgrade your system you can move the 460 into the new rig.
this is what I have
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003
you just have to make sure it fits in your case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134
I have this 1 in my back up rig

both these cpu coolers have push pins like the stock cooler

You have to check your m/b bios to see if it supports overclocking

Cyberdyne · 10-11-2010, 03:47 | posts: 1,285 | Location: USA, Pennsylvania

I agree, even when I had my 260 my old E7200 oced to 3.6ghz was still bottlenecking it.

mariowarrior777 · 10-12-2010, 00:02 | posts: 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyk2005

I would still get the cheapest 460 you can get. that way when you upgrade your system you can move the 460 into the new rig.
this is what I have
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003
you just have to make sure it fits in your case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134
I have this 1 in my back up rig

both these cpu coolers have push pins like the stock cooler

You have to check your m/b bios to see if it supports overclocking

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberdyne

I agree, even when I had my 260 my old E7200 oced to 3.6ghz was still bottlenecking it.

Thank you guys for your input, I will problably overclock my CPU, maybe I can get it stable at 3.5 ghz.

A M D BugBear · 10-12-2010, 01:46 | posts: 1,588

erh @ 1280X1024, depending on the game, it will move towards cpu bound a bit. overclocking the cpu will help.

If your playing games like fear, even at your monitor resolution, it is tremendously gpu bound, in other words, you can have your cpu at stock speed then overclock it to 4ghz, fps wont make jack squat difference, quality settings is another factor too. If you turn everything off then set it too 1280X1024 then fear more move a lil bit to cpu bound.

It all depends on what game you play and why are you using a 1280X1024 monitor with that gpu, you should be going at least, at least 1920X1200 resolution. I am using a gtx 216 and can run any mmorpg on the market with excellent quality settings, with the exception of ffxiv online, you jack that up with supersampling 16Xaaq, ambient occlusion, runs worse then crysis, looks outstanding but runs like poop on my overclocked 216.

A M D BugBear · 10-12-2010, 01:49 | posts: 1,588

I would also strongly recommened going to x64 and install 4gigs or higher ram. win7 loves ram, just like vista does.

mine idle, over a gig easy on idle.

Just download the 7600 rtm for free, and burn it to a blank dvd disc. I am still using the 7600 rtm build since last year,still get the updates, running 5 old wd raptors in raid 0, Runs EXCELLENT, raid is very very stable, even better then xp, xp I had run into some problems with raid, win7? nope.

Undying · 10-12-2010, 12:06 | posts: 2,676 | Location: Serbia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberdyne

I agree, even when I had my 260 my old E7200 oced to 3.6ghz was still bottlenecking it.

I dont think E7200 3.6Ghz will bottleneck GTX260 or GTX460 at higher resolutions...

sykozis · 10-12-2010, 12:15 | posts: 13,500 | Location: US East Coast

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyk2005

I would still get the cheapest 460 you can get. that way when you upgrade your system you can move the 460 into the new rig.
this is what I have
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003
you just have to make sure it fits in your case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134
I have this 1 in my back up rig

both these cpu coolers have push pins like the stock cooler

You have to check your m/b bios to see if it supports overclocking

G31 boards are entry-level boards. I doubt his ASRock G31M is going to allow overclocking.

mariowarrior777 · 10-17-2010, 17:12 | posts: 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by A M D BugBear

erh @ 1280X1024, depending on the game, it will move towards cpu bound a bit. overclocking the cpu will help.

If your playing games like fear, even at your monitor resolution, it is tremendously gpu bound, in other words, you can have your cpu at stock speed then overclock it to 4ghz, fps wont make jack squat difference, quality settings is another factor too. If you turn everything off then set it too 1280X1024 then fear more move a lil bit to cpu bound.

It all depends on what game you play and why are you using a 1280X1024 monitor with that gpu, you should be going at least, at least 1920X1200 resolution. I am using a gtx 216 and can run any mmorpg on the market with excellent quality settings, with the exception of ffxiv online, you jack that up with supersampling 16Xaaq, ambient occlusion, runs worse then crysis, looks outstanding but runs like poop on my overclocked 216.

I use a 1280X1024 monitor because I know that at high resolutions the GTX 460 is going to be crap in a year for new games and I want to have all settings maxed out in most games for at least 1 year. Anyways, the system I have is crap so I think I'm going to build another system. Thank you for your comment.

mariowarrior777 · 10-17-2010, 17:28 | posts: 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by sykozis

G31 boards are entry-level boards. I doubt his ASRock G31M is going to allow overclocking.

The Asrock G31-M R2.0 does allow overclocking, I checked the manual. But that MB is not good for gaming so I've decided to build another system with the following.

MB: Msi P55 A-G55
Processor: Intel Core I5 760
Memory: Corsair Dominator 4gb (2x2gb) Ddr3 1600 Cl8
Video card: EVGA Nvidia GTX 460 1GB 256bit
Power supply: Corsair HX 650w

I guess these parts should do the trick just fine, but I'm going to have to wait for a couple of months. I live in South America and computer parts are up to 4 times more expensive than in the US. Please make any comments on the system I'm proposing.

TheHunter · *Last edited by TheHunter; 10-17-2010 at 17:43.*

just make sure you get 1gb 460gtx model

and i agree about cpu bottleneck, it will hold you back in quadcore oriented games, other than that you'll be fine..

edit: that system looks fine, although a i870 would be allot better for longer investment ( those extra 4 virtual cores could help in the near future)

alanm · 10-17-2010, 18:46 | posts: 4,981

If he upgraded his monitor to a 1920x1080/1200 one, that would remove much of the CPU bottleneck. Plus it would give him a much better visual/gaming experience.

angmar · 10-17-2010, 19:59 | posts: 1,025 | Location: Monmouth County, NJ

Do not get a gts 450 they are junk for gaming as said above I would much rather get a gtx 460 and when you upgrade your rig down the road transfer it into the new pc. An for your cpu if you have a decent motherboard you should be able to overclock it quite a bit to help with bottle necking issues. I ran a gtx 460 in my old pc with a phenom ii x4 965 and I believe it was slightly bottlenecked but not by a large amount e7600 ...especially ocd a few hundred mhz should be able to play along nicely enough to hold you over tll you have money more for more parts.

angmar · 10-17-2010, 20:01 | posts: 1,025 | Location: Monmouth County, NJ

Mario-Newegg.com has tons of PNY GTX 470 for only 269.99 I would consider getting that for the measily 39 dollars more then the gtx 460 and will be far more powerful...and i'm sure other people will say an overclocked gtx 460 is as fast as a gtx 470...but most dont take into consideration you can also overclock the 470 :]

IcE · 10-17-2010, 20:16 | posts: 7,006 | Location: Toledo, Ohio

I'd have to say no if you have a 3.4Ghz overclock. Just because it won't be as fast in like 5 games (BC2 for example) doesn't mean the processor is a bottleneck.

Cyberdyne · 10-17-2010, 20:44 | posts: 1,285 | Location: USA, Pennsylvania

The fact that it wont be as fast in any game due the CPU means it's bottlenecked. What you are saying is that it should not matter, which is totally opinionated.