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Videocards - ATI ATI Radeon graphics cards. Do you have one or want to buy one? Use this forum to discuss anything concerning products using ATI graphics cards, CrossFireX, from Radeon 9800 to HD 4870 X2
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Videocard: SAPPHIRE HD4850 690/1138
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Radeon HD 4850 Heat issues -
06-28-2008, 09:43
| posts: 695 | Location: Gainesville, Florida | User is Offline
Okay, here's the problem. I just received my HD 4850 3 or so days ago. And I've been running F@H GPU. Now the temps are up to 82C, but the damn auto speed controller or w/e its called that comes on the card. Is only running the fan at 31% which is pretty much 2200RPM. With a GPU load of 70+ percent.
Now I'm not liking these temps at all, nor am I liking the fan controller. Can someone help me find a program that can controll the HD4850 fan?
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Master Guru
Videocard: HIS HD4850 + TT DuOrb 700/1135
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Memory: 4 Gb DDR2-800
Soundcard: Built in Realtek HD audio
PSU: Cooler Master 550W
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06-28-2008, 09:55
| posts: 601 | Location: Colorado | User is Offline
Well its not the auto speed controller that is the issue. Its the temps that ATi set as safe and the speed they thought would suffice. Currently there is no program that can control fan on these cards. Soon there will be rivatuner to do exactly that but not yet. You could just be like the rest of us proud 4850 owners and get an aftermarket cooler for it. I got the ThermalTake DuOrb vga cooler. As for those temps, they are well within operating temperature, but i agree that they are just too high for these cards.
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Master Guru
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06-28-2008, 10:37
| posts: 341 | Location: northeast england | User is Offline
well my 4870 sits at 76deg and goes upto about 85deg playing games but that is well within ati"s guide line
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Master Guru
Videocard: 4870 1GB
Processor: Intel Q6600 @ 3.6ghz(Air)
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PSU: Silverstone 850w
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06-28-2008, 10:50
| posts: 480 | Location: Ask me | User is Offline
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Member Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte Radeon 4850, 512MB
Processor: Intel E8400 @ 3GHz
Mainboard: Asus P5E
Memory: 2x2048Mb Mushkin 5-5-5-15@1066 DDR2
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06-28-2008, 11:15
| posts: 52 | Location: Romania | User is Offline
hope that ati mini-oven inside my case is also within m-audio's guide-line, and intel's guide-line, and western digital's guide-line and nec's guide-line and sirtec's guide-line and mushkin's guide-line and... you get the point
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Newbie
Videocard: VisionTek HD4850 512mb
Processor: AMD x3 8650
Mainboard: MSI K9
Memory: 2 gig Mushkin DDR2 PC6400
Soundcard:
PSU: Corsair 650TX
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06-28-2008, 12:01
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I have the VisionTek 4850 and I got my temps to drop by unplugging the wire that controlled the fan speed on my card it was the blue wire but the fan is kinda loud.
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Master Guru
Videocard: HIS HD4850 + TT DuOrb 700/1135
Processor: Core 2 duo E6750 2.66 Ghz
Mainboard: ECS P35T-A
Memory: 4 Gb DDR2-800
Soundcard: Built in Realtek HD audio
PSU: Cooler Master 550W
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06-28-2008, 12:07
| posts: 601 | Location: Colorado | User is Offline
lol ya i bet it is loud. Ati set the fan speed for a reason DuOrb is really quiet and cools well. not to mention it lets you only take up 2 slots unlike some aftermarket cooling
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Master Guru
Videocard: Two ATI 4850's
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Memory: Kingston HyperX 4GB@1066
Soundcard: X-Fi
PSU: Corsair 650TX
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06-28-2008, 18:08
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if you make a profile in catalyst after turning on Overdrive( make sure clock and memory settings are correct). You can then go to the file "C:\Users\Bretware\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\Bretware. XML. the xml file will have the same name as the catalyst profile you saved. right click and hit edit.
<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="65" />
Change the value to "manual" and Want value to "65"
Save the file then reload your profile in catalyst.
65% seemed perfect for me, 70% was loud but you may need it if your case has poor air flow.
You will may have to select the profile everytime you start the computer, but it will work until there is a fix or better info so i can figure how to change the auto target temp.
Good Luck ,bretware
Last edited by bretware; 06-29-2008 at 17:45.
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Master Guru
Videocard: SAPPHIRE HD4850 690/1138
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Mainboard: ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe
Memory: mushkin 4GB DDR2 1066
Soundcard: SoundMAX HD + Logi Z-5500
PSU: ABS Tagan BZ1100
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06-28-2008, 19:04
| posts: 695 | Location: Gainesville, Florida | User is Offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by bretware
if you make a profile in catalyst after turning on Overdrive( make sure clock and memory settings are correct). You can then go to the file "C:\Users\Bretware\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\Bretware. XML. the xml file will have the same name as the catalyst profile you saved. right click and hit edit.
<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="65" />
Change the value to "manual" and Want value to "65"
Save the file then reload your profile in catalyst.
65% seemed perfect for me, 70% was loud but you may need it if your case has poor air flow.
You will have to select the profile everytime you start the computer, but it will work until there is a fix or better info so i can figure how to change the auto target temp.
Good Luck ,bretware
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Amazing! Thank you very much! It worked perfectly, and within the first minute the temps dropped from 82C to 52C running on 70% speed (which isn't that loud)
Problem is, when I tried 100% (just for ****s and giggles) after 20 seconds or so the fan started to buzz.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: XFX GTX 285 1GB
Processor: Core2Duo E6600 @ 3.4 Ghz.
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
Memory: 8GB G.Skill DDR2 PC2-6400
Soundcard: Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme
PSU: SeaSonic M12 SS-700HM
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06-28-2008, 20:27
| posts: 1,297 | Location: I Don't Know, But It Smells Funny | User is Offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by bretware
if you make a profile in catalyst after turning on Overdrive( make sure clock and memory settings are correct). You can then go to the file "C:\Users\Bretware\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\Bretware. XML. the xml file will have the same name as the catalyst profile you saved. right click and hit edit.
<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="65" />
Change the value to "manual" and Want value to "65"
Save the file then reload your profile in catalyst.
65% seemed perfect for me, 70% was loud but you may need it if your case has poor air flow.
You will have to select the profile everytime you start the computer, but it will work until there is a fix or better info so i can figure how to change the auto target temp.
Good Luck ,bretware
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Damn man, you're a Genius. Works like a charm but fan at 65% sounds like a hair dryer for me. I'll find something I can live with. I'll be spreading the word but giving you credit if you don't mind.
Last edited by honestjohn; 06-28-2008 at 22:01.
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Newbie
Videocard: ati HIS Radeon 4890
Processor: intel quad core 6600
Mainboard: asus p5b deluxe
Memory: kingston 800 4 gigs dual
Soundcard: onboard SOundmax HD
PSU: 750corsair psu
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06-28-2008, 21:11
| posts: 21 | Location: Canada | User is Offline
very nice thank you works great.
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Newbie
Videocard: ATI 4850
Processor: Amd Athlon 64 X2 4800+
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06-29-2008, 02:41
| posts: 2 | User is Offline
I can't seem to get it to work. I make a profile but it doesn't appear in the folder, all i have is a file called profiles.
edit: i've found it and it works
Last edited by Rich2526; 06-29-2008 at 02:56.
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Master Guru
Videocard: HD4870x2 Asus Tri-fan 2GB
Processor: Q9550 @ 3.4 H50 cooler.
Mainboard: Asus x48 Rampage Formula
Memory: 8gb Corsair Dominator
Soundcard: Asus Supreme FX II.
PSU: Corsair TX750w.
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06-29-2008, 03:09
| posts: 454 | Location: UK. | User is Offline
Wow, well done bretware!
Set mine at 65% and it dropped temps by 22C...
You have to set "show hidden and system files" in folder options to view the profiles.
Also, Unlock the overdrive setting ... if you haven't done so already.
Edit... works after a reboot too!
Great find mate!
Last edited by fasteddy; 06-29-2008 at 03:50.
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Master Guru
Videocard: ATI 4890
Processor: Q6600@3.6GHz
Mainboard: Asus P5K-E
Memory: 8G DDR2
Soundcard: SB A2 ZS, Logitech Z640
PSU: OCZ-1000w
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06-29-2008, 05:28
| posts: 591 | Location: Canada | User is Offline
Works great, set 35% fan speed, idle's at 45-46c now.
With the fan at only 35%, quite quiet, I loaded up FurRenderingBenchmark and set it for stability test, after 10 minutes temperature topped out at 81c. This is fantastic, especially for only 35% speed on a stock fan and running Fur benchmark. And this was with 790MHz on the core.
For those of you who never ran Fur benchmark nothing hits a video card as hard as this.
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Master Guru
Videocard: Club3D HD 4850 512MB
Processor: E8400 @ stock
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Memory: 2 x 2Gb Mushkin SP2-6400+
Soundcard: Soundblaster Live 24-bit
PSU: Corsair HX 620
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06-29-2008, 07:12
| posts: 388 | Location: Finland | User is Offline
sweet thing, thanks man. That saves me buying after market cooler. I wonder if these things work with 4870? ^^
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Master Guru
Videocard: evga gtx260@750/1250/1500
Processor: E8500@4.0ghz
Mainboard: gigabyte ga-p35-ds3r
Memory: 8Gb OCZ Gold series
Soundcard:
PSU: corsair 520w
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06-29-2008, 07:29
| posts: 341 | Location: northeast england | User is Offline
cheers for this had to set it to 35 as anything above that was a bit noisey for me but running at 42deg cheers,do you have to keep loading your profile everytime you bootup or will it kick in automatic
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Master Guru
Videocard: HD4870x2 Asus Tri-fan 2GB
Processor: Q9550 @ 3.4 H50 cooler.
Mainboard: Asus x48 Rampage Formula
Memory: 8gb Corsair Dominator
Soundcard: Asus Supreme FX II.
PSU: Corsair TX750w.
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06-29-2008, 07:48
| posts: 454 | Location: UK. | User is Offline
Mine comes in automatically... sorted!
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Member Guru
Videocard: sapphire hd4850 512mb
Processor: intel q6600 @ 3.42ghz
Mainboard: gigabyte p35 ds3l
Memory: 8gb ocz pc2-6400
Soundcard: audigy2 platinum ex
PSU: corsair hx 520w
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06-29-2008, 14:37
| posts: 79 | Location: cheltenham, england | User is Offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by bretware
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that's great. i can't wait to pick up a 4850 this week.
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Master Guru
Videocard: Diamond HD3870
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 3800 @2.
Mainboard: ECS KA3 MVP 580X
Memory: 2GB A-Data DDR2 800
Soundcard: X-fi xg/Logitech X-540
PSU: OCZ GameXtreme 700W
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06-29-2008, 16:30
| posts: 654 | Location: Liverpool, NY | User is Offline
With all the hell we went through with the 3800 series with the fan speed and we could have just edited an xml file this whole time!!!???!!!
Last edited by enessel; 06-29-2008 at 17:53.
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Master Guru
Videocard: Two ATI 4850's
Processor: AMD 940, Rosewill Z-4
Mainboard: ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiF
Memory: Kingston HyperX 4GB@1066
Soundcard: X-Fi
PSU: Corsair 650TX
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06-29-2008, 17:15
| posts: 285 | User is Offline
Sorry about that, It will keep the settings with out having to reload the the profile on reboot.
A few things about ati cooling,
Fans running at the highest speeds can cause two problems, the first is virbration that can cause problems on boards that do not have a locking retainer. 2nd I've seen fan speeds about 80% and over tax some power supplys causing random shut downs.
80c is way too hot!!!!!!!!, 80 degrees Celsius = 176 degrees Fahrenheit.
Between 50c and 65c is what i'm getting(Fan at 50 now). 65c is where i draw the line.
bretware
Should work with the 4870, but it would be better if i could get the auto target temp. working or a fix from ATI
Last edited by bretware; 06-29-2008 at 17:22.
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Newbie
Videocard: Powercolor 4850 512MB
Processor: Intel Q6600 B G0
Mainboard: Maximus II Formula
Memory: 2GB Corsair
Soundcard: Sumpreme Fx
PSU: Corsair HX 620
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06-29-2008, 17:40
| posts: 4 | Location: Asia | User is Offline
The duorbs work 
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Newbie
Videocard: HD 4850
Processor: P4 @ 4.0
Mainboard: Abit AA8EX
Memory: 2 gig
Soundcard:
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06-29-2008, 18:23
| posts: 12 | User is Offline
I'm in love.......gonna have to set that up soon as I get the 2nd 4850.
Great find on the fan speed fix-appreciate it.
Last edited by mummert90; 06-29-2008 at 18:33.
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Master Guru
Videocard: 4870 1GB
Processor: Intel Q6600 @ 3.6ghz(Air)
Mainboard: Asus Maximus Formula X38
Memory: 4 gb Patriot 800mhz @ 975mhz
Soundcard: creative sound blaster
PSU: Silverstone 850w
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06-29-2008, 18:37
| posts: 480 | Location: Ask me | User is Offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulc
The duorbs work

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told u it work ur rig is a beauty,got one my 8800gtx in my antec 900 with all blue even my zalman 9700 is black with blue led(modd)
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Newbie
Videocard: HIS HD4850
Processor: AMD X2 4600+
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06-29-2008, 21:37
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I made it up to /ATI/ACE but no profile that I just made. Just like Rich2526 it just says Profiles.xml. I've been trying for 2 hours, please help how to find the darn file. Thanks.
edit: Found it and set to 65%, idling at 46 degrees C as we speak. Thank you very much.
Last edited by wolvixxx; 06-29-2008 at 21:48.
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06-29-2008, 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bretware
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Thanks! Worked great!!!
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