New AA and AF Methods.

EvanC · **New AA and AF Methods. -** 11-17-2006, 03:24 | posts: 108 | Location: VA

WHAT DO THESE DO!? (EATM, RNPP, ECMM, ZTWA, MRTWA, EAAZMM, EPSZMM, SAOM, ZRA, ZMRA, SAAOM)

Has anyone noticed any performance differences with these new methods? Has anyone learned what each does?

Ray do you know?

AXS · 11-17-2006, 11:51 | posts: 245

EATM = Exotic Animal Training and Management

ECMM = East Coast Mobile Medical

SAOM = Swiss Association of Osteopathic Medicine

ZRA = Zoo Registrars Association

It's all about animals and medicine the rest I don't know

thecake90 · 11-17-2006, 12:39 | posts: 4,065 | Location: Earth

Quote:

WHAT DO THESE DO!? (EATM, RNPP, ECMM, ZTWA, MRTWA, EAAZMM, EPSZMM, SAOM, ZRA, ZMRA, SAAOM)

Is this a joke

BoomStYx · 11-17-2006, 13:23 | posts: 22

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Originally Posted by thecake90

Is this a joke

Duh?

AXS · 11-18-2006, 09:51 | posts: 245

Actually you can find this in ATT but nobody knows for what do they stand

Gamergod · 11-18-2006, 11:25 | posts: 1,047 | Location: United Kingdom

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Originally Posted by AXS

Actually you can find this in ATT but nobody knows for what do they stand

Nor does Ray cause I asked

lorenzo.x119 · 11-18-2006, 15:30 | posts: 98 | Location: Venice (IT)

The EATM I found that is something like the AdaptiveAA, but with some defects such as lack of shadows, artifacts:

Without

With

EvanC · 11-25-2006, 03:06 | posts: 108 | Location: VA

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Originally Posted by thecake90

Is this a joke

why would this be a joke? why did that other guy say duh? They are new AA methods listed in the release notes...

smidty · 11-26-2006, 00:56 | posts: 3

ATI did a lot of work on EATM within 6.12beta and most of the bugs are fixed. There are also some new options availiable, namely:

ATMAlphaFix
ATMAlphaSharpenBias
ATMAlphaSharpenmode
ATMAlphaSharpenScale

Especially ATMAlphaSharpenmode fixes artifacts and helps image quality, while still being very fast. Any chance to see those options in ATT?

Dwarden · 11-26-2006, 02:21 | posts: 161 | Location: Czech Republic

i second previous post

also is this correct EAMT setup for ATT?

Unity · 11-26-2006, 06:50 | posts: 212

To the guy above me....why would you disable high quality AF?

smidty · 11-26-2006, 10:37 | posts: 3

Well, it seems to be a rhetorical question. In fact HQ-AF (aka Area AF) has a performance impact of around 10% in some benchmarks while in games it is only 5% in worstcase scenarios.

That being said I also would never disable HQ-AF, it looks so sweet Nvidia had to implement another (even better btw) AF filter in their new 8800 generation.

lorenzo.x119 · 11-26-2006, 12:02 | posts: 98 | Location: Venice (IT)

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Originally Posted by smidty

ATI did a lot of work on EATM within 6.12beta and most of the bugs are fixed. There are also some new options availiable, namely:

ATMAlphaFix
ATMAlphaSharpenBias
ATMAlphaSharpenmode
ATMAlphaSharpenScale

Especially ATMAlphaSharpenmode fixes artifacts and helps image quality, while still being very fast. Any chance to see those options in ATT?

But where do these options appear? In the Control panel or in ATT ??

EATM is a great feauture but as you could see in my previous post in 6.11 has a lot of problems...

smidty · 11-26-2006, 12:21 | posts: 3

People report that most of the problems are fixed with 6.12beta, but you have to manually activate the settigs via regedit until Ray Adams (yes, the one and only!) lets us toggle them from within ATT. I doubt we ever will see such thing in CCC, but good to know they improve their drivers also beside mainstream options at ATI.

lorenzo.x119 · *Last edited by lorenzo.x119; 11-26-2006 at 17:23.*

With drivers 6.12beta EATM works perfectly!!!

No more artifacts and missing shadows!!

Look at these:

With EATM disable:

With EATM enable:

Simply amazing!!!

Dwarden · *Last edited by Dwarden; 11-27-2006 at 02:38.*

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Originally Posted by Unity

To the guy above me....why would you disable high quality AF?

because it was default setting after driver update to 6.12b

and i i remember discussion was about new AntiAliasing methods and not Anisotropic Filtering ...

p.s. lor - these additional values are part of registry entries in driver settings ...

p.p.s. if anyone remember Humus wrote some time ago small OpenGL app to force alpha test into alpha to coverage , nice to see it appear now for DX too

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21414

eclap · 12-02-2006, 01:10 | posts: 18,320 | Location: Hampshire UK

How do I enable EATM? I put a new string in the right place in the registry, and can't see no difference. Do I have to enable anything else? The fences @ Istambul in RACE still look awful. Help?

Namsu2403 · 12-02-2006, 19:15 | posts: 216 | Location: Scotland

Yo eclap you might find your answer on this thread on rage3d

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...3874363&page=3

The guy called sirpauly seems to know wat hes talkin about. Also I thought temporal aa was meant to make chain linked fences look better. And try the 6.12 beta's, they have a few of the bugs in 6.11's fixed (missing shadows etc.)

Tell us how it goes.

Just noticed you did the string manually. try using ATT to do it for you(under advanced tweaks/New AA and AF Methods.)

eclap · 12-03-2006, 01:52 | posts: 18,320 | Location: Hampshire UK

Thanks Namsu. But I don't want to install ATT, because it gives me random artifacts on windows start. So I'm stuck to the registry hack, which I did and didn't see any difference in Race. I tried Istambul, loads of fences round the track and the game look the same as without the registry hack. I'm using 6.12 betas, also will try temporal AA. Hope it helps. Will get back to you soon.

Mekrel · 12-03-2006, 02:21 | posts: 5 | Location: England

No, temporal AA is where the level of AA is increased if the FPS is fast enough to allow it. Adaptive AA is antialiasing applied to transparent textures like your chain fences etc.

spookywillow · *Last edited by spookywillow; 03-03-2007 at 18:24.*

i just found these new methods, when using something like that EATM do you have to disable the other standard AA options? or can it be used alongside them?

EDIT; dont matter, just found my answers