Chemistry muscles vs normal muscles?

[Nomadspy]

It's weird question so let me explain.I'm planning to make myself bigger with the help of the chemistry but i wonder if i'm going to be as strong as other "big" people.I noticed that a lot American people are huge (not fat) and muscular so i made research and found that it's because of their GMO food injecting cows with steroids and so on.I want to do the same thing to my body but i want to have power also not just looking strong.Is this just gossip that the "chemistry" guys are weak?

[IPlayNaked]

Originally Posted by Nomadspy

It's weird question so let me explain.I'm planning to make myself bigger with the help of the chemistry but i wonder if i'm going to be as strong as other "big" people.I noticed that a lot American people are huge (not fat) and muscular so i made research and found that it's because of their GMO food injecting cows with steroids and so on.I want to do the same thing to my body but i want to have power also not just looking strong.Is this just gossip that the "chemistry" guys are weak?

Of course it is chemicals in the food. Couldn't be that people just have that body type.

[Mikedogg]

So basically you're saying you want to inject yourself with steroids to make yourself bigger ?

[scoter man1]

Originally Posted by Mikedogg

So basically you're saying you want to inject yourself with steroids to make yourself bigger ?

I'm pretty sure that's what he's sayin. Honestly, do whatever the hell you want. It looks fake as hell though. I've never needed more than just protein powder. I still dont understand the people that take creatine and all that other bs.

[hallryu]

Originally Posted by scoter man1

I'm pretty sure that's what he's sayin. Honestly, do whatever the hell you want. It looks fake as hell though. I've never needed more than just protein powder. I still dont understand the people that take creatine and all that other bs.

Another lol Supplements work differently for everyone and if you've never tried another supplement you are seriously under qualified to comment.

[ScaryClown]

Look,what ever you tink about doing that includes steroids please dont!
As a doctor i must warn you that steroids have terrible efects on entire body that includes fatty liver,liver cancer,breast cancer in men,renal insufficiency,loss of libido,becoming sterile,hear loss,acne and so on.....

Anabolics force the body do create proteins and dump them in the muscle.Also they retain water and also dump it in the muscle.As a result you blood preassure will raise,sure your muscles will grow but it wont be permanent and as soon as you stop you will start to lose body mass.

All people that use chemistry to grow muscle tissue have hypertrophic muscles mening that the number of muscle cells in a single affected musce remains the same but every cell becomes a little bigger and that causes muscle to appear big.

People who are in to sports such as athletics or gymnastics or just guys who exercise regulary have hypercellular muscles meaning that each individual muscle cell reamins almost the same size as before exercise but overal number of cell in a single affected muscle is greater making muscle growth permanent and making muscle not just stronger but also more resilient toward injury and overal stamina is increased.They are called mature muscles and they don fully form untill the age of 35.

Dont be fooled by the promices of steroids.They are nothing but trouble.
If you want to be strong just exercise,eat healthy foods,sleap and rest and generaly lead a healthy life.

If you stil want to grow in size a good way is to increase the intake of B group of vitamines.Also you could try beer yeast powder that can be bought in healty food stores in small canisters.
You can combine it with small amoints of creatine but beware that it can cause elevated bood preassure!!!

[Mikedogg]

Originally Posted by ScaryClown

Look,what ever you tink about doing that includes steroids please dont!
As a doctor i must warn you that steroids have terrible efects on entire body that includes fatty liver,liver cancer,breast cancer in men,renal insufficiency,loss of libido,becoming sterile,hear loss,acne and so on.....

Anabolics force the body do create proteins and dump them in the muscle.Also they retain water and also dump it in the muscle.As a result you blood preassure will raise,sure your muscles will grow but it wont be permanent and as soon as you stop you will start to lose body mass.

All people that use chemistry to grow muscle tissue have hypertrophic muscles mening that the number of muscle cells in a single affected musce remains the same but every cell becomes a little bigger and that causes muscle to appear big.

People who are in to sports such as athletics or gymnastics or just guys who exercise regulary have hypercellular muscles meaning that each individual muscle cell reamins almost the same size as before exercise but overal number of cell in a single affected muscle is greater making muscle growth permanent and making muscle not just stronger but also more resilient toward injury and overal stamina is increased.They are called mature muscles and they don fully form untill the age of 35.

Dont be fooled by the promices of steroids.They are nothing but trouble.
If you want to be strong just exercise,eat healthy foods,sleap and rest and generaly lead a healthy life.

If you stil want to grow in size a good way is to increase the intake of B group of vitamines.Also you could try beer yeast powder that can be bought in healty food stores in small canisters.
You can combine it with small amoints of creatine but beware that it can cause elevated bood preassure!!!

Thank you, you saved me a big writeup.


If I could, I'd introduce to an ex-bodybuilding mate of mine. As "scaryclown" has stated, said mate has most of those problems.

It really ain't worth it.

[hallryu]

Originally Posted by ScaryClown

Look,what ever you tink about doing that includes steroids please dont!
As a doctor i must warn you that steroids have terrible efects on entire body that includes fatty liver,liver cancer,breast cancer in men,renal insufficiency,loss of libido,becoming sterile,hear loss,acne and so on.....

Anabolics force the body do create proteins and dump them in the muscle.Also they retain water and also dump it in the muscle.As a result you blood preassure will raise,sure your muscles will grow but it wont be permanent and as soon as you stop you will start to lose body mass.

All people that use chemistry to grow muscle tissue have hypertrophic muscles mening that the number of muscle cells in a single affected musce remains the same but every cell becomes a little bigger and that causes muscle to appear big.

People who are in to sports such as athletics or gymnastics or just guys who exercise regulary have hypercellular muscles meaning that each individual muscle cell reamins almost the same size as before exercise but overal number of cell in a single affected muscle is greater making muscle growth permanent and making muscle not just stronger but also more resilient toward injury and overal stamina is increased.They are called mature muscles and they don fully form untill the age of 35.

Dont be fooled by the promices of steroids.They are nothing but trouble.
If you want to be strong just exercise,eat healthy foods,sleap and rest and generaly lead a healthy life.

If you stil want to grow in size a good way is to increase the intake of B group of vitamines.Also you could try beer yeast powder that can be bought in healty food stores in small canisters.
You can combine it with small amoints of creatine but beware that it can cause elevated bood preassure!!!

On the other hand hospital wards around the world are not full of dead and dying body builders. Some pay the ultimate price however.

Steriod use requires research before use. There are real and obvious risks, not everyone responds to them in the same way or will get the same gains either.

One of the main and often overlooked risks is counterfeit or inferior products and poor advice regarding which products to stack and how often you should have time off from your rotations.

Correctly used and correctly researched risks can be minimised. However, the one risk that can't be minimised is how YOUR body will respond to them.

[Nomadspy]

Originally Posted by ScaryClown

Look,what ever you tink about doing that includes steroids please dont!
As a doctor i must warn you that steroids have terrible efects on entire body that includes fatty liver,liver cancer,breast cancer in men,renal insufficiency,loss of libido,becoming sterile,hear loss,acne and so on.....

Anabolics force the body do create proteins and dump them in the muscle.Also they retain water and also dump it in the muscle.As a result you blood preassure will raise,sure your muscles will grow but it wont be permanent and as soon as you stop you will start to lose body mass.

All people that use chemistry to grow muscle tissue have hypertrophic muscles mening that the number of muscle cells in a single affected musce remains the same but every cell becomes a little bigger and that causes muscle to appear big.

People who are in to sports such as athletics or gymnastics or just guys who exercise regulary have hypercellular muscles meaning that each individual muscle cell reamins almost the same size as before exercise but overal number of cell in a single affected muscle is greater making muscle growth permanent and making muscle not just stronger but also more resilient toward injury and overal stamina is increased.They are called mature muscles and they don fully form untill the age of 35.

Dont be fooled by the promices of steroids.They are nothing but trouble.
If you want to be strong just exercise,eat healthy foods,sleap and rest and generaly lead a healthy life.

If you stil want to grow in size a good way is to increase the intake of B group of vitamines.Also you could try beer yeast powder that can be bought in healty food stores in small canisters.
You can combine it with small amoints of creatine but beware that it can cause elevated bood preassure!!!

Thank you sir!That was really informative.I knew it was obvious but wanted to know for sure :-)

Of course it is chemicals in the food. Couldn't be that people just have that body type.

Yes it's the chemicals.I know you are sarcastic but you are right at the same time

[Ourasi]

Originally Posted by ScaryClown

Look,what ever you tink about doing that includes steroids please dont!
As a doctor i must warn you that steroids have terrible efects on entire body that includes fatty liver,liver cancer,breast cancer in men,renal insufficiency,loss of libido,becoming sterile,hear loss,acne and so on.....

Anabolics force the body do create proteins and dump them in the muscle.Also they retain water and also dump it in the muscle.As a result you blood preassure will raise,sure your muscles will grow but it wont be permanent and as soon as you stop you will start to lose body mass.

All people that use chemistry to grow muscle tissue have hypertrophic muscles mening that the number of muscle cells in a single affected musce remains the same but every cell becomes a little bigger and that causes muscle to appear big.

People who are in to sports such as athletics or gymnastics or just guys who exercise regulary have hypercellular muscles meaning that each individual muscle cell reamins almost the same size as before exercise but overal number of cell in a single affected muscle is greater making muscle growth permanent and making muscle not just stronger but also more resilient toward injury and overal stamina is increased.They are called mature muscles and they don fully form untill the age of 35.

Dont be fooled by the promices of steroids.They are nothing but trouble.
If you want to be strong just exercise,eat healthy foods,sleap and rest and generaly lead a healthy life.

If you stil want to grow in size a good way is to increase the intake of B group of vitamines.Also you could try beer yeast powder that can be bought in healty food stores in small canisters.
You can combine it with small amoints of creatine but beware that it can cause elevated bood preassure!!!

Good advice, no doubt, but from a technical point of view, remember there is a wast amount of "anabolic steroids/medisines", some really good and some really bad..

Usually someone that starts using steroids, learns as he/she goes, and end up using stuff that one later finds out are dangerous, and regrets it deerly. One of those steroids that will haunt alot of users is Anadrol 50mg, lots of those big oldies regret they ever came in contact with that killer..
On the other end of the scale, there are those "steroids" that actually are pretty safe, I won't give any names, but they do exist, after all some are used to defeat illnesses and/or to increase quality of life, given by medical professionals, but they are commonly only moderate anabolic..

My adwise, is never use any steriods unless you know all there is about them, and that is alot reading and learning. By default, about 99.9% of those considering using steroids, have no clue what to do and what to use, so unless you are of that .01% bracket, stay away..

As for training supplements, some do contain steriods, albeit of small quantities, or nothing of value at all, so a thumbrule should be to avoid anything from lesser known companies. If one goes the clean route, all you need is high quality proteinrich food (1-1.5g protein pr. kg. bodyweight pr. day), and lots of calories..

[thatguy91]

Those sports builder powders can help, but you really need to be doing the right exercise and the right diet (plus taking the right powder).

The use of steroids for those 'huge' people is more common than authorities would like you to believe, but that said most of those huge people get there through proper diet, proper exercise, and a crapload of training!

One of the most common (albeit illegal) things for people to take is Human Growth Hormone (HGH), since its normally found in the body, and the amount present varies greatly between people. They basically keep their blood serum HGH levels at the upper end of what is acceptable. Injecting with HGH isn't good for you either, attaining higher levels through different means is preferable.

One perfectly legal and valid way is by taking around 15g of GABA (L-Gamma Amino Butyric Acid). This can supposedly increase your bodies nature release of HGH, but keep it within your bodies limit. That is, it doesn't throw off natural balance. Its important to have a proper diet with this and any other means of course. The main side affect with GABA can be tingling in the face, that just means you have had enough for it to be effective (and is temporary). Taking GABA and other amino acids like AAKG are about as close as you will get to building without any of the negative aspects of illegal substances, and is absolutely perfectly legal. The only concern is the source of the GABA, since it can be reasonably price or very expensive.

[Finchwizard]

Do not think just because you take steroids you'll get huge.

You still need to work your ass off, and work properly otherwise you'll still just injure yourself.

[hallryu]

Originally Posted by Finchwizard

Do not think just because you take steroids you'll get huge.

You still need to work your ass off, and work properly otherwise you'll still just injure yourself.

QFT, recovery times are vastly reduced so you can train really hard and regular. If you're a novice to training then steroids are not for you.

Some injections sites require a friend as well!

[Veteran]

Steroids are for girls,dont take shortcuts,dont cheat,do it naturally,unless your competing then Steroids is a must as you wont come anywhere.

[hallryu]

Originally Posted by Veteran

Steroids are for girls,dont take shortcuts,dont cheat,do it naturally,unless your competing then Steroids is a must as you wont come anywhere.

lol Steroids are definitely not for girls. Unless you like then hairy, with deep voices and a clit the size of you little finger!

[Agent-A01]

Originally Posted by Veteran

Steroids are for girls,dont take shortcuts,dont cheat,do it naturally,unless your competing then Steroids is a must as you wont come anywhere.

Agreed 100%

sorry but the huge meat heads that take steroids are just plain pathetic.

Originally Posted by scoter man1

I still dont understand the people that take creatine and all that other bs.

creatine is just water mass not sure why people take it either

[hallryu]

Originally Posted by Agent-A01

Agreed 100%

sorry but the huge meat heads that take steroids are just plain pathetic.



creatine is just water mass not sure why people take it either

Pathetic, I think not. It takes serious commitment to body build full time.

What's a 'Meat head'?

[Agent-A01]

Maybe roids work different for everyone but i had a friend who i went to the gym with 3 times a week, he took them for a year and he noticeably got much bigger than me over that year. He was much bigger than me but i was still stronger than him(might be genetics though)by a good bit and we were about the same size at the start. He stopped taking them and he had lost a lot of mass over a month or two.

[damien666]

mate dont do steroids..


ive used them a few type infact, self injection and oral, for a good cycle ull need a few £££ of injectable but the downside is not the price but the effects after, granted most side effects are over driven and made out to be worse when their not but this is a scare tactic, if your carefull and inject correctly ull be 90% fine the only main side effect is spots on the back area which go once the PCT has finished..

i have spent quite alot of them in past and heres my verdict


1) yes they do work BUT only with increase of food, they only work if your intaking the amount needed, they do help by making you wanna eat more BUT after you finish YOU WILL LOSE THE MASS OR 90% OF WHATS YOU HAVE GAINED which then leads to depression and mis use as you'll want to skip the PCT and start a new cycle right off the bat..


my advice is if you do a cycle, make sure 2-3week after last injection you start a 3week cycle of PCT to get your levels back to normal and then DO NOT start another one till the time off them match the length of the cycle, also dont take them unless you have a few years of hard training behind you, i dint start till 5/6years of

[Finchwizard]

Creatine works fine, you just don't notice the 'effect' as much because helps you with quick burst energy.

Eat like a horse, have lots of protein and just lift like you should be lifting, you'll gain.
Then after a few months have a rest and work on your cardio to work off the fat you've gained and repeat.

There's really no point in Steroids to be honest.

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by Finchwizard

Creatine works fine, you just don't notice the 'effect' as much because helps you with quick burst energy.

Eat like a horse, have lots of protein and just lift like you should be lifting, you'll gain.
Then after a few months have a rest and work on your cardio to work off the fat you've gained and repeat.

There's really no point in Steroids to be honest.

+1 im a fan of creatine,i been using it for over 10 years on and off,helps you past that sticking point.

About steroids.....once youve trained hard for sometime over few years you will hit a brick wall dont matter how genetically gifted that you are,the only way forward to increase mass and strength is to use steroids,i know a few people that take them properly and train properly,you also have to find the correct stack that works for you combined with an Estrogen blocker etc etc etc.

Its not all about steroids when you take them,theres other things that you need to take in the stack *that works for you*,that work alongside steroids,things you dont hear about.

Personally ive never taken them as i have no plans ever to compete on stage but i do train at Dorian Yates gym in Birmingham,top body builders from all over the world come here(Branch Warren was the last i seen) and there all on steroids,if you want to compete its the way forward,if you dont then i suggest going naturally as you can make good gains this way,i have anyhow.

Anybody thinking of taking them i suggest you do one thing first..educate yourself,theres a lot you can read on the subject,there are also people out there that will sell you **** steroids that can really harm your body....becareful and be wise!

Horses for courses at the end of the day.

Edit....This is the gym i train at,i was actually here that day training legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlGDa...81X8sBJvpmoQw=

[volkov956]

I can tell u the people that use artifical from my point of view 2 things happen it looks good but has little to no real use, second goes away when u dont keep up with whatever u used.

From my view watching supposed body and workoutters

[Solfaur]

Imo, do not take steroids if you do not compete, be it bodybuilding/strongman w/e (they are needed in almost every sport at the highest level).

I'm not telling you what to do though, I know a lot of people who take steroids and some of them who actually take them "smart" with advices from specialized doctors look great and are healthy, it's the stupid ones who take steroids like they would take protein pills (the semi-steroids in pill form are the WORST for you, much more toxic than injected ones for your liver). But the ones looking good have a lot of money in their hands... it's not cheap.

[Doug]

Since when have roids ever been a good thing? All I ever see is people taking the piss out of roiders and saying how bad they are and now people are actually almost recommending it to him

I'd never touch em, if I'm gonna get big I'm gonna do it properly. Besides I don't know anyone who actually thinks the typical huge roided up men look good compared to a more athletic muscular build :/

[Agent-A01]

Originally Posted by Doug

Since when have roids ever been a good thing? All I ever see is people taking the piss out of roiders and saying how bad they are and now people are actually almost recommending it to him

I'd never touch em, if I'm gonna get big I'm gonna do it properly. Besides I don't know anyone who actually thinks the typical huge roided up men look good compared to a more athletic muscular build :/

another thing that doesnt make sense