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Maha Guru
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For those like that to waste money on CPU's for gaming -
12-20-2011, 17:10
| posts: 909 | Location: Illinois
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Newbie
Videocard: GTX580 SLI
Processor: 2600K
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PSU: Silverstone ST1000
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12-20-2011, 17:21
| posts: 2 | Location: UK
Still wont stop me splashing out on an 3930K
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Member Guru
Videocard: SAPPHIRE HD6870 1G
Processor: Phenom X4 955 3.8GHz
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PSU: CORSAIR 500W
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12-21-2011, 22:12
| posts: 110
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Moore
Still wont stop me splashing out on an 3930K 
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why would you wanna buy 3930K if you have 2600k. Jesus Christ!!!
Send me you i5 and i'll be your friend for ever
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Master Guru
Videocard: GTX580 DCII SLI - H2O
Processor: i7 2600K@4.8Ghz@1.4V-H2O
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Soundcard: HDMI to HK AVR1600 7.1
PSU: Antec 1000W TP QUATTRO
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12-20-2011, 17:40
| posts: 441 | Location: Belleville, Ontario
i love how they didnt put the 2500k or 2600k in there.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: MSI GTX 570
Processor: i7-2600K @ 4.6ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67
Memory: G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB
Soundcard: ASUS Xonar D2
PSU: Corsair GS800
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12-20-2011, 19:08
| posts: 13,412 | Location: Glasgow
Yeah, why they picked an i7 920, i have no idea, can't be far off two years old now, and a nice cheap 2500k would do the same.
Strange selection of games, but the few that do respond to a good CPU do show increases, especially when using CF, but its missing games like BF3, GTAIV etc.. which do benefit more than most.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX Titan SC H20
Processor: i7 2700K 5GHz 1.35 HT H20
Mainboard: Asus P8Z77-WS
Memory: G.Skill 8GBx2 2133
Soundcard: Xonar Phoebus-PC360/HD598
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000
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12-20-2011, 19:29
| posts: 5,617 | Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redemption80
Yeah, why they picked an i7 920, i have no idea, can't be far off two years old now, and a nice cheap 2500k would do the same.
Strange selection of games, but the few that do respond to a good CPU do show increases, especially when using CF, but its missing games like BF3, GTAIV etc.. which do benefit more than most.
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i7 920 is almost 4 years old..
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SC+
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.0
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866 - 8GB
Soundcard: Soundblaster Z + Aurvana
PSU: Enermax NAXN 82+ 750W
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12-21-2011, 21:43
| posts: 6,980 | Location: Toledo, Ohio
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent-A01
i7 920 is almost 4 years old..
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And performs almost identically to a 2500k at the same clocks...Nehalem is still good, it's not like SB reinvented the wheel.
Regardless though, this article is nonsense.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX Titan SC H20
Processor: i7 2700K 5GHz 1.35 HT H20
Mainboard: Asus P8Z77-WS
Memory: G.Skill 8GBx2 2133
Soundcard: Xonar Phoebus-PC360/HD598
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000
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12-21-2011, 23:44
| posts: 5,617 | Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by ice445
And performs almost identically to a 2500k at the same clocks...Nehalem is still good, it's not like SB reinvented the wheel.
Regardless though, this article is nonsense.
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Uh huh, yeah identical... 
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/47?vs=288
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SC+
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.0
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866 - 8GB
Soundcard: Soundblaster Z + Aurvana
PSU: Enermax NAXN 82+ 750W
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12-21-2011, 23:48
| posts: 6,980 | Location: Toledo, Ohio
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent-A01
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I think you failed comprehension 101. I said they're roughly equal at the SAME CLOCKS.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: GTX 670 WF3
Processor: i5-760 NH-D14
Mainboard: Gigabyte UD3
Memory: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X
Soundcard: Sennheiser HD600/ODAC+O2
PSU: 600W OCZ StealthXStream 2
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12-21-2011, 23:52
| posts: 827 | Location: Montreal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent-A01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice445
And performs almost identically to a 2500k at the same clocks...Nehalem is still good, it's not like SB reinvented the wheel.
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definitely failed comprehension 101
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Maha Guru
Videocard: GTX 670 WF3
Processor: i5-760 NH-D14
Mainboard: Gigabyte UD3
Memory: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X
Soundcard: Sennheiser HD600/ODAC+O2
PSU: 600W OCZ StealthXStream 2
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12-22-2011, 00:04
| posts: 827 | Location: Montreal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent-A01
not identical
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice445
almost identically
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lol starting to feel bad
game benchs dont show a 22% increase that's for sure
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Member Guru
Videocard: GTX 480 1.5GB
Processor: i7 870 4Ghz
Mainboard: EVGA P55 FTW
Memory: 8GB GSkill Sniper 1800Mhz
Soundcard: X-Fi XtremeGamer
PSU: Corsair 750TX
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12-20-2011, 22:59
| posts: 115 | Location: Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redemption80
Strange selection of games, but the few that do respond to a good CPU do show increases, especially when using CF, but its missing games like BF3, GTAIV etc.. which do benefit more than most.
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Yeah my i7 870 at 4Ghz struggles in BF3, 1920x1200 High w/ 2x MSAA. Average fps in perfoverlay is like half of my two 6850s. Min is even worse relatively...
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX Titan SC H20
Processor: i7 2700K 5GHz 1.35 HT H20
Mainboard: Asus P8Z77-WS
Memory: G.Skill 8GBx2 2133
Soundcard: Xonar Phoebus-PC360/HD598
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000
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12-20-2011, 19:35
| posts: 5,617 | Location: USA
I think ill just get a 2nd 580 and skip this and kepler and upgrade to w/e nvidia has next.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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12-20-2011, 21:45
| posts: 14,671 | Location: New Jersey, USA
thats my plan too, had theses cards a full year already. and with all the crying going on in the ati driver section, Im a little scared to give them a try
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX Titan SC H20
Processor: i7 2700K 5GHz 1.35 HT H20
Mainboard: Asus P8Z77-WS
Memory: G.Skill 8GBx2 2133
Soundcard: Xonar Phoebus-PC360/HD598
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000
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12-20-2011, 23:17
| posts: 5,617 | Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyk2005
thats my plan too, had theses cards a full year already. and with all the crying going on in the ati driver section, Im a little scared to give them a try
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So you are skipping kepler? Thats what i said i would do. Anyways i feel the same way about amd
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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12-20-2011, 23:34
| posts: 14,671 | Location: New Jersey, USA
thats my plan the low end stuff is coming out first long wait. hope maxwell is on schedule. that was my plan to wait it out for maxwell. I plan on getting a new soundcard, faster ram and a IB and sell one of my SB chips. probably the 2600k
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Don Vincenzo
Videocard: 7660D
Processor: AMD 5800k
Mainboard: Biostar a85 hudson
Memory: 8gb ddr3 1600mhz
Soundcard: onboard
PSU: 550 watt psu
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12-21-2011, 16:42
| posts: 10,222 | Location: Toledo Ohio
Not sure why this is in this section, but gonna move this to the appropriate section.
But on topic now, it's good to spend the extra money on the CPU. Why? You're future proofing! That article proves it right there that! Even in some titles listed in there, the i7 920 despite having a few years on the FX series still can score higher FPS! Now you won't be playing your games at 168 fps constantly, but for games that are cpu intensive even at high resolutions that come out in the near future will benefit from the faster cpu. I love my 435 I have, but if I had to do it all over again I would have easily gotten a Phenom II instead, and overclock it higher than what I can overclock this! I can tell you from experience, it's not a waste of money buying faster and more expensive cpus.
But notice how that article didn't include any Sandybridge cpus?
Last edited by vbetts; 12-21-2011 at 16:47.
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Maha Guru
Videocard: MSi GTX560 TwinFrozrII OC
Processor: i5 2500K stock
Mainboard: Asus P8P67-M Pro
Memory: 16Gb Patriot G2 1333Mhz
Soundcard: Onboard Realtek
PSU: Satellite SL-8600EPS 600w
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12-21-2011, 18:10
| posts: 2,533 | Location: Look out!
Yeah, so Bulldozer has no problem going against first gen core i7? Yeah, great, *pat* *pat* Now, they could test... umm... some current processors? Like A8, 2nd gen i5 and i7, Sandy Bridge-E?
Its like going now about how a i5 2300 trashes a Phenom X4 9850 lol
The article itself says that Phenom II its reaching the end of the line and that Bulldozer pricing is higher than it should be compared against a 2500K.
Last edited by The Chubu; 12-21-2011 at 18:12.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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12-21-2011, 21:40
| posts: 14,671 | Location: New Jersey, USA
from the looks of that chart I would take the i7 920 and a measly 3.8ghz or 4ghz over any of the other chips.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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12-22-2011, 00:17
| posts: 14,671 | Location: New Jersey, USA
SB dual channel if faster than nehlam tri channel. Clock for clock sb is a Tad faster. That not discounting nehlam superiority for the most part of the chart. Its still an excellent chip after all this time. Beating AMD in a lot of those benchmarks. Not too shabby
Last edited by ---TK---; 12-22-2011 at 01:14.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SC+
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.0
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866 - 8GB
Soundcard: Soundblaster Z + Aurvana
PSU: Enermax NAXN 82+ 750W
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12-22-2011, 00:31
| posts: 6,980 | Location: Toledo, Ohio
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyk2005
SB dual channel if faster than nehlam trial channel. Clock for clock sb is a Tad faster. That not discounting nehlam superiority for the most part of the chart. Its still an excellent chip after all this time. Beating AMD in a lot of those benchmarks. Not too shabby
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SB is faster in dual channel? I mean I could be wrong on that, as I haven't looked at the benches in a long time, but it doesn't sound right to me...I'll go look
Yeah I was wrong, write performance is better. Read is about the same though.
Last edited by IcE; 12-22-2011 at 00:35.
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Don Altobello
Videocard: 2x 7970 1150/6600 - U2711
Processor: 3770k delid 4.7GHz - H100
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP7
Memory: Corsair Dom GT 2134 2x4GB
Soundcard: Asus Xonar D2X + SP2500
PSU: BeQuiet! DP Pro 1.2kW 96A
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12-22-2011, 00:34
| posts: 10,834 | Location: England
My 920 is still holding it's own and I don't see a massive reason to change atm, but I do get envious of the those higher overclocks on SB :'(
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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12-22-2011, 00:43
| posts: 14,671 | Location: New Jersey, USA
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SC+
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.0
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866 - 8GB
Soundcard: Soundblaster Z + Aurvana
PSU: Enermax NAXN 82+ 750W
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12-22-2011, 01:17
| posts: 6,980 | Location: Toledo, Ohio
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyk2005
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Yep, that's where I went. I guess I just forgot with time.
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Ancient Guru
Videocard: 680 FTW 4GB SLI 1254/7200
Processor: i7 2600k 4.7Ghz HT Off
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Memory: RipJaws X 2x8GB 2133Mhz
Soundcard: Phoebus + DT880 Pro 250
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
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12-22-2011, 01:29
| posts: 14,671 | Location: New Jersey, USA
nehlam is faster than lynnfield clock for clock
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