NVIDIA® TeslaTM C1060 Computing Processor what does it do ???????

barwell1992

would it be worth buying a NVIDIA® TeslaTM C1060 Computing Processor for gaming what would it do or benafit me im just curous

ohh and didnet know wair to post this as its not a graphics card lol

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 00:38 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

Tesla has absolutely nothing to do with gaming, or more to the point isn't designed to run games so would be just a total waste of money

It also has no output ports for a display.

This card is mainly for those who want to use a card with high processing power to crunch numbers, such as folding or scientific simulations or anything that involves rendering via the stream processors.

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 00:41 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

ok thanks just looking round nvidias site and came acros it thanks for the info i know it can be used in tri sli if u want to call it that lol and is suposedly called a super computer lol they aint cheep

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 00:54 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

Yeah they cost a fortune.

In terms of super computing, its not really that far off. The stream processors allow for massive parrallel computing capabilities and completely blitz some of what you would call "supercomputers" of this decade depending on how many cads you use

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 00:59 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

kwl now if that came the gaming direction i would be intrested u could run graphics of of ure gpu and the rest of the game of that TeslaTM with the 4gb of ram and its own prosesor while your system can convert dvds using its prosesor and the mother boards ram :/ wonder if it could ever work

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 01:07 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

Technically, they really arent that far different from GPU technology.

They aren't much different in comparison to the Quadro's actually.

Infact, you could quite closely relate the C1060 to a 280GTX, except it has 3x more RAM.

I dont really see the diference between the two really (quadro and tesla) apart from the Tesla range is going to sit inside the case as a dedicated processor (GPGPU)

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 01:09 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

ye im quite intrested not to buy but just to know about then sort of thing

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 01:12 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

do apps need to be written using a specific SDK to make things run on this hardware?

Session · 11-24-2008, 01:16 | posts: 482 | Location: Los Angeles, CA

^ ^ yes they do!

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 01:17 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

ye i would like to know 2 cuz it could be used for gaming or normal use if it isent spesificly for 1 thing that would save a prosesor upgrade

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 01:22 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

It doesn't work the same way as a processor from Intel or AMD for example, it can't run x86 instrctions or anything like that.

Generally, you'd write applications in CUDA to make anything run on these processors.. they are essentially CUDA processors fr lack of a better term.

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 01:40 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

[QUOTE=Passion Fruit;2921465]It doesn't work the same way as a processor from Intel or AMD for example, it can't run x86 instrctions or anything like that.[QUOTE]

nope in other words unfortunatly

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 01:25 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

ohh right i see would be good if they could be used as a secondairy prosesor or if a gpu could used as one when not displaying heavy graphics so uses part of the core for graphics and the other half for cpu aplications if doing lots of things minus gaming

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 01:35 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

can x86 apps be ported onto these? now that would be interesting

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 01:47 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

i am a noob when it comes t programming, but maybe a runtime environment could be written to run x86 apps?

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 01:49 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

hmm idk would be intresting to find out

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 01:53 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

there is always an issue of licensing cos i guess x86 code will need to be reverse engineered.

but maybe if done right, it could be avoided.

ATi falls under AMD and maybe x86 licensing extends to them as well and maybe ATi could do something similar?

Big grin on face

barwell1992 · 11-24-2008, 02:19 | posts: 3,728 | Location: uk

Lmao

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 02:20 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

I doubt the liscense would stretch to GPGPU's, just the normal CPU since that would directly put Intel's Larrabee under competition.

Larrabee will probably remain the only x86 based GPGPU, leaving CUDA and ATI's equivilant to fight it out aswell.

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 02:30 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

i believe what AMD should do is to use the stream architecture on an x86 cpu. now i dont know if that is at all possible but can you imagine the leap in raw performance will be?

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 02:40 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

Yeah, it would make the CPU obsolete overnight! If AMD could have done this, im sure they'd be working on it but Intel will have protected themselves in a way so that AMD can only use the x86 instruction set on an x86 based CPU architecture.

Larrabee is however looking very promising. Preliminary results show it to scale almost perfectly every time you add cores, which is making SLi and Crossfire look like an absolute joke at the moment. Doubling the cores is essentially giving a one for one performance increase which is a far cry as far as ATI and Nvidia are concerned. Personally i cant wait to see how Larrabee turns out against the cards that ATI and Nvidia are lining up for compete.

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 02:44 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

Agreed, Larrabee should be interesting, but wont that kind of make them selves look like bigots by having x86 on their cough graphics cough"processors" and not ATi

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 03:04 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

Nope not really since Intel is in a position to do what it likes with it's architecture with regards to how its implimented and it's use. It's merely an advantage for them in a competitive market, one which looks like its going to yield significant gains.

AMD on the other hand only have a license to produce CPU's based on that architecture. Intel never really had a choice in the matter to deny AMD a liscence, however they'd much rather prefer they didn't

nVidia is also trying to get their hands on one by purchasing Cyrix (who also hav a liscence) but Intel are saying that it wont follow the company over... sneaky though!

To use the x86 architecture in any way other than based on a stand alone CPU
would breach the contract

Clawedge · 11-24-2008, 03:11 | posts: 1,201 | Location: Earth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passion Fruit

To use the x86 architecture in any way other than based on a stand alone CPU
would breach the contract

Which is why cpu progress is slow

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Passion Fruit · 11-24-2008, 03:26 | posts: 5,830 | Location: Middlesbrough, England

yep

The fact is, all mainstream software is compiled to run on x86 architecture and it's been liscensed out to a lot of other companies so there is no alternative.

Getting software developers, never mind the end consumer to switch to something new would be a monumental task in itself.