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LOL - 3Dmark 06/07 score XBOX 360 - LOL
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Default LOL - 3Dmark 06/07 score XBOX 360 - LOL - 07-28-2007, 09:06 | posts: 2,167 | Location: LOOK OUT OF YOUR WINDOW!

OK i am proberbly still pissed. But what score could IF possible a 360 get in 3D 06/07 . Humour me. I know it aint possible ...but what if.
Lets have a laugh.

Now wheres mi drink.......
   
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Default 07-28-2007, 09:29 | posts: 322 | Location: India

i guess XBOX 360 will score following scores
1.3DMARK05-4000pts
2.3DMARK06-1500pts
   
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Default 07-28-2007, 09:42 | posts: 5,075 | Location: Toledo, Oh

Of course the 3dmark06 score would eclipse your wildest dreams and fascinations and might even tickle your fancy. I'm guessing world record status and no less.... over 30k....
   
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Default 07-28-2007, 10:43 | posts: 1,170 | Location: On a hill, still sniping fanbois

Actually it would be crap. 05/06 would have to be converted to the 360's native API before it would become decent. Run as is a lot of the code would probably end up software emulated, and we all know where that leads.
   
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Default 07-28-2007, 10:46 | posts: 3,370 | Location: UK

In all seriousness, I reckon 2-3000 in 3dmark06
   
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Default 07-28-2007, 11:26 | posts: 5,075 | Location: Toledo, Oh

Well, lets see. The 360 has a triple core cpu, although not the strongest. So it would get avg points for that I guess(I'm guessing like a 3ghz pent D, and maybe not even that fast). It has low memory but the edram and game optimization makes up for it some. The gpu is very good for it's low res, I would rank it somewhere around a 1900xt in performance, but it is more advanced in features. So in 3dmark06 if you run a stock 1900xt or slightly underclocked 1900xt with a 2.8ghz pent D whatever score you come out with would equal the 360 imo. I don't run 3dmark though as I feel it's nowhere near a real representation of real gfx card performance.

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Default 07-29-2007, 19:43 | posts: 1,102 | Location: New York, U.S.

id say like 11k(Because unlike most of you im not biased towards consoles)
   
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Default 07-30-2007, 22:48 | posts: 5,075 | Location: Toledo, Oh

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id say like 11k(Because unlike most of you im not biased towards consoles)
What are you talking about? Who's biased towards consoles?
   
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Default 07-30-2007, 23:15 | posts: 3,370 | Location: UK

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id say like 11k(Because unlike most of you im not biased towards consoles)
You should use [sarcasm] tags.
   
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Default 07-31-2007, 19:01 | posts: 6

rofl, i'd be really curious about this too.
   
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Default 08-01-2007, 14:01 | posts: 107 | Location: Canada

in 3dmark06 assuming you could get it to work and use the hardware features and not software emulation.... i would guess around 9,000-10,000.... the triple core, 6 threaded cpu would make a big difference in the score
   
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Default 08-01-2007, 14:15 | posts: 3,467 | Location: Moon

How about a Colin Mcrae dirt benchmark test ....
   
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Default 08-01-2007, 17:25 | posts: 6

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in 3dmark06 assuming you could get it to work and use the hardware features and not software emulation.... i would guess around 9,000-10,000.... the triple core, 6 threaded cpu would make a big difference in the score
the program has to be multithreaded for that to make a performance impact. it won't utilize more than 1 or 2 hardware threads i'd think.

if it fully used the cpu of the 360, it'd also have to fully use the measly dual and quad cores on the PC, so PC scores would jump too.

EDIT: and GPUs make more of an impact in 3DMark.

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Default 08-01-2007, 22:31 | posts: 949 | Location: Oregon

In all honesty, I think probably like 11K or so in 3Dmark 05, Since remember... 3 CPU's are good, but 3 Pentium 4 performance style CPU's wouldn't be very good at benchmarks... 3dmark 06, takes a fairly heavy emphasis on the CPU ( multiple cores ) So i say about 7K or so - Remember, it has what.. 48 unified shaders? An X1900XT has 48 pixel shaders, and 8 vertex, so it has more vertex power, but the core's only 500MHZ I believe.. It would be a little unfair to fully optimize the 360 for it, since they don't make it tailored to each PC... And no, i'm not biased against consoles...
   
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Default 08-03-2007, 04:04 | posts: 5,075 | Location: Toledo, Oh

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In all honesty, I think probably like 11K or so in 3Dmark 05, Since remember... 3 CPU's are good, but 3 Pentium 4 performance style CPU's wouldn't be very good at benchmarks... 3dmark 06, takes a fairly heavy emphasis on the CPU ( multiple cores ) So i say about 7K or so - Remember, it has what.. 48 unified shaders? An X1900XT has 48 pixel shaders, and 8 vertex, so it has more vertex power, but the core's only 500MHZ I believe.. It would be a little unfair to fully optimize the 360 for it, since they don't make it tailored to each PC... And no, i'm not biased against consoles...
If you go by the "stream shaders" thing that says r600 has 320 shaders that would mean that xenos has 48(4+1) shaders(240 total) vs. the 1900xt's 48(3+1) shaders(192 total) so the shaders are kinda not the same. There's other architectural differences too.

Ebucemag in-order basically means that the cpu has to be spoonfed information instead of just taking it randomly. They can still get good performance out of it, it just takes some clever programming. Most likely more programming too, from what I hear I'm not a developer. The situation is compounded on the ps3 by the asymmetrical cores.

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Default 08-01-2007, 23:43 | posts: 657 | Location: US

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the program has to be multithreaded for that to make a performance impact. it won't utilize more than 1 or 2 hardware threads i'd think.

if it fully used the cpu of the 360, it'd also have to fully use the measly dual and quad cores on the PC, so PC scores would jump too.

EDIT: and GPUs make more of an impact in 3DMark.
3Dmark06 is multi threaded and does show nice gains in score with multiple core CPUs. There is easily a 1000-1500 point increase while using a quad core vs a dual core in 06.

You don't benchmark much do you?
   
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Default 08-02-2007, 10:49 | posts: 6

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3Dmark06 is multi threaded and does show nice gains in score with multiple core CPUs. There is easily a 1000-1500 point increase while using a quad core vs a dual core in 06.

You don't benchmark much do you?
That's kind of not a lot. I got a 1200 point gain simply from overclocking my video card on stock cooling. You're telling me doubling your processor count giving you less than that is true optimization?
   
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Default 08-02-2007, 13:59 | posts: 1,311 | Location: Las Vegas, NV

ROFL probably like 40000 + on both HA
   
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Default 08-02-2007, 22:15 | posts: 657 | Location: US

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That's kind of not a lot. I got a 1200 point gain simply from overclocking my video card on stock cooling. You're telling me doubling your processor count giving you less than that is true optimization?
A quad core will net you double the score in the CPU test of 06 vs a dual core but your overall score will not double. You're new around here, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you don't know or are trying to learn how benchmarks work.

EDIT: And in 06, 1000 points is the equivalent of winning a race by a mile.

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Default 08-02-2007, 23:49 | posts: 2,167 | Location: LOOK OUT OF YOUR WINDOW!

Bear in mind it would have very little resorces and i believe the memory is DDR3.
I think it would be interesting to read what it would be. Ms probably did some benches somehow.
   
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Default 08-03-2007, 03:03 | posts: 657 | Location: US

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Bear in mind it would have very little resorces and i believe the memory is DDR3.
I think it would be interesting to read what it would be. Ms probably did some benches somehow.
Of course they did some tests to see what it's capabilities were, but I seriously doubt it was anything even remotely similar to the 3Dmark suites.
   
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Default 08-03-2007, 03:35 | posts: 980 | Location: Lansing, MI

I would say 8-9.5k in 3dmark05, and 4-5k in 3dmark06...
I remember reading about the cpu in both the ps3 and 360 actually being very weak...like in actually perfomance compares to a single core P4.
The GPU is like a X1900XT with lower core clocks, total memory, and mem speed.

Edit: I believe both PS3 and 360 CPU's are In-order cpu's, thats 1 reason why they are much slower than PC cpu's.

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