754 Mobos

thamara · **754 Mobos -** 05-21-2005, 07:47 | posts: 82 | Location: Srilanka

Friends,
I have a AMD Athlon64 3000+ Processor(Socket754)
There are no more Mother boards awailable in our country
But I found only 2 boards
so..
What is the best Mother Board within these,
GIGABYTE GAK8NS nForce3 250
GIGABYTE GAK8M800 Micro ATX
MSI K8N Neo
Thanks!

ST19AG_WGreymon · 05-22-2005, 00:39 | posts: 4,655 | Location: Maryland, USA

Just get whichever one has the nForce 3 chipset. If you can afford it.

arnie · 05-22-2005, 13:36 | posts: 1,386

I have the socket 939 version of the MSI K8N Neo, so I assume the 754 version would be good too.

Go for the MSI

krisha · 05-25-2005, 00:19 | posts: 3,054 | Location: Denmark

go for MSI.

MikeMK · 05-25-2005, 00:33 | posts: 10,506 | Location: London

yep I agree with the guyz, out of those get the MSI. Ive used a number of MSI boards, and they all been pretty good.

phrozin · 05-25-2005, 14:20 | posts: 2,835 | Location: Earth

yest the neo plat for sure great board

Nerm · 05-25-2005, 15:18 | posts: 943 | Location: MadTown, IN

The DFI UT nf3 is actually the best s754 board, but out of the ones you listed I say the MSI hands down.

John · 05-25-2005, 15:59 | posts: 16,425 | Location: Northern Norway

Yeah, there's nothing to think about. The DFI is the only board worth considering, IMO. If you can't get it, then the MSI is pretty decent.

MikeMK · 05-25-2005, 16:07 | posts: 10,506 | Location: London

Yeah, should have mentioned the DFI in my last post. Great board. I had one and loved it

deathvirus · 05-26-2005, 09:58 | posts: 4,499 | Location: Kolkata, India

MSI rulez ....

PS : U guys know of any socket754 mobo that has a pcix16 slot ????

phrozin · 05-26-2005, 15:56 | posts: 2,835 | Location: Earth

Actually guys the dfi 754 is not that great no better than the asus or giga I recommended one to a m8 who didn’t want a msi and he cant touch my msi 3200 claw score's with my old 3200 claw cpu in it even today it can still hold its own against 939, msi 754 is the best 754 board out there bar none.

You guys are forgetting the nf3 754 was a shocking chipset buggy as the only motherboard man that worked it out was msi and that’s a fact
!

WildStyle · 05-26-2005, 16:42 | posts: 15,240 | Location: UK

No, the 250 (which the K8N Neo Plat & DFI UT are based on, as I'm sure you are aware) was not buggy at all. The 150 was buggy. That is why we have the 250.

And I beg to differ, what are you talking about the MSI being the best 250 board? The only board that was not buggy? I think you are a little confused. There are many perfectly good boards based on the nf3-250 chipset. The MSI is not the best in terms of obtainable HTT/tweaking options, the DFI is. Not only is the MSI BIOS lacklustre (incl. VID), but it is a known fact the DFI is capable of higher HTTs. I have had both, and I know which I prefer. I did not get along with the MSI, and I know several people who didn't either. Their quality control is poor. Sure, some boards work well, but a good majority don't. Therefore, and I'm sure many others will agree with me here, the DFI UT nForce3 250gb is great, and the best available nf3-250gb board.

phrozin · 05-26-2005, 18:29 | posts: 2,835 | Location: Earth

Wild Style you are kidding ?

Wild style I respect your opinion so don’t get me wrong but I disagree I don’t know what you do for a living (in fact I don’t know you at all) but all nf3 250's 754's had issues ALL of them I am not going to go into all of them the dfi was no better than any other put the wrong mem on it and it’s a bsod pig as for higher htt , well that gets down to who’s tweaking doesn’t it, as for a motherboard (754) I lost more money on nf3’s asus msi dfi giga’s then than any other board chipset with ra's and time fixing up customers systems it was not funny it got down to I refused to sell them in the end, even dfi would admit there was issues with them funny how they gave up on them till nf4 or did that little read pass you by, as for tweaking options that in its self does not make them good its just help full.

As for who has had what I too have had both 7 neo's in fact I have had them all if you want to play that line and I would put a neo up against your dfi any day of the week. As for Msi least they got off their bums and tried fixing the prob’s with about 20 bios in 2 weeks more than I seen from dfi and anyone else I will give you the quality issues but that did get fixed when they got sued over it but your probably right they are better now than they ever were.

Even Oscar W from Dfi the Dfi bios wiz kid wrote a long list of problems with nf3 250 chipset so I don’t know where you were but I know where I was.

Now the question still stands the guy whom originally posted said

Friends,
I have a AMD Athlon64 3000+ Processor(Socket754)
There are no more Mother boards awailable in our country
But I found only 2 boards
so..
What is the best Mother Board within these,
GIGABYTE GAK8NS nForce3 250
GIGABYTE GAK8M800 Micro ATX
MSI K8N Neo
Thanks!

The neo is the pick.

Now off the subject for a bit
Its obvious to me you don’t like me fair enough that’s life, you have pull me up a few times which is fair enough some times I go over the top at some ppls I can go to far at times but only when provoked, but I get a lot of crap from some on this forum with useless unintelligent comments and I never see you take them to task, but with this issue I agree to disagree with you, but your are not always right no mater what you may or may not think or post at times. Please don’t patronize me m8 as in your 1st line i am aware of more than you may think

Btw i am not trying to offend you as every one seems to think around here when i post at times and I know you are the all mighty admin but if I think your wrong i will say so as i am sure you will to me

WildStyle · 05-26-2005, 18:43 | posts: 15,240 | Location: UK

Okay, a few points you are seemingly unaware of...

I have never "pulled you up" before, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never spoken to you before.

You don't think I get pissed off at the amount of n00b questions on this forum these days? Why do you think I rarely post now? I just end up correcting people the whole time.

I never said I think I am always right, where did you get that idea? Nobody is always right. I guess your ego is just too big for your own good.

Your whole post is completely over the top, and yes I do disagree with you and I stand by my original post, but I'm willing to overlook this outburst. You really are quite out of order going off on one like that at me.

allesclar · 05-26-2005, 18:46 | posts: 5,027 | Location: England

ouch

MikeMK · 05-26-2005, 18:59 | posts: 10,506 | Location: London

Come on guyz! No need for all that. Both of u make a great contribution to this forum, and both of u have really helped me out at different times....

Cant we all just... get along????

John · 05-26-2005, 19:02 | posts: 16,425 | Location: Northern Norway

Hm... Interesting post. Are you willing to fill me in one the "errors" the 250Gb had? Cause, I've had this board, and the epox 8kda3+, and I didn't have any problems caused by chipset issues. And what exactly do you find better with the MSI board over the DFI? Valid points please, not just "because that's how it is" stuff. And I challlenge you to put a stock MSI 250 board up to a stock DFI board. Let's see, the MSI is limited to 2,85v stock, whereas the DFI does 3.1v stock bios, 4v modified bios. The MSI is also fairly vcore limited stock, while the DFI has plenty of voltage in that section too. Picky about memory? That one's pretty new to me. My board has taken everything I've tried in it :/ All the memory tweaking options on the DFI is indeed very handy. Yes I am aware over that you can do most of these things in a64 tweaker, but it's nice to be able to save them properly for a 24/7 combination.
About the MSI's though. I don't know how the new neo boards are, but the older generation (summer/autumn 2004) was POS quality. It seems like MSI had forgotten to quality check them! I saw boards burning up, I saw boards being DOA, I saw boards stopping at 220HTT etc etc etc. Perhaps they've fixed that since then, but I don't know because almost no one gets these boards anymore.

As for your reaction on WildStyle's post phrozin; Ehm. First off, this is a discussion forum. That means we discuss things, and that all can give their input. You make it seem like your opinions are final, and what people should pay attention to. You must accept that people here have other opinions than you, and that they are allowed to express them in a sivil manner, which Wildstyle more or less did.
If you have any problems with moderators, you can either 1) PM the moderator you're having trouble with, and discuss it in private. Or, 2) PM an Admin, like me, Hilbert, Ant, Marty or Glidefan.

Nerm · 05-26-2005, 21:53 | posts: 943 | Location: MadTown, IN

Quote:

Originally posted by John

About the MSI's though. I don't know how the new neo boards are, but the older generation (summer/autumn 2004) was POS quality. It seems like MSI had forgotten to quality check them! I saw boards burning up, I saw boards being DOA, I saw boards stopping at 220HTT etc etc etc. Perhaps they've fixed that since then, but I don't know because almost no one gets these boards anymore.

Well, I have one of the MSI boards from that early summer/2k4 autumn and as you can see from my results it isn't exactly a POS lol.

as for the MSI or DFI argument I am only going to say that I like the DFI boards and think they are great for OCing, but I will put my MSI powered s754 system up against any other s754 system any day.

John · 05-26-2005, 21:56 | posts: 16,425 | Location: Northern Norway

I didn't mean all boards, cause some did get good results from them (like you, it seems). But many, perhaps like 50-70% of all cases I saw in that period, were very negative. I almost bought that board myself, but changed my mind after reading so much negative about it.