1080 Ti on 1080p@60 Hz and why it makes sense

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Terepin, May 30, 2017.

  1. pegasus1

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    Cmon, let rip that your 970 is just as fast as a stock 980 when you OC it and anybody who buys a 980 is a mug, you're that guy.
     
  2. Darkest

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    They were posted at different times? What are you talking about, your two posts had a couple of minutes between them. You know how to edit a post, right?

    Or do you not know how to multi-quote?

    As for someone wanting a 1080ti at 1080p, you're absolutely right that it's their choice. However, the OP brought the topic up on a forum in order to share his point of view. A forum is a place for debate, and while people are welcome to post their opinions people are also well within their rights to respond and disagree.

    What does owning a 1080ti have to do with this thread? Are you trying to claim that people aren't allowed to have opinions on things unless they own them? It's a poor stance to take. If you're on about people like Sverek who jumps on anyone who has a better computer than him, you're best off ignoring him. I'm guessing it is envy considering how frequently he does it.

    If you can afford the best, what's wrong with getting it? Most people who buy better hardware can do so because they work hard for the privilege. Granted, there was a guy who used to post on here who regularly took out payday loans and got into severe credit card debt in order to upgrade his rig, but I'm guessing (hoping) he's a rarity.
     
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  3. sverek

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    I am done here.
     
  4. Terepin

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    OK, you guys who think this is an overkill, why exactly you think that? State your reasons.
     

  5. anxious_f0x

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    1080Ti is somewhat overkill at 1080p 60fps, especially when you consider that most games these days don't even support demanding forms of Anti Aliasing, the same results can be achieved with a lesser GPU for sure.

    If you're downsampling from higher resolutions, then yes, the 1080Ti is still needed.

    That being said though if the intention is to keep the same GPU/Display for the next 5+ years then the headroom is probably there to continue playing the latest games @ 1080p 60fps for that amount of time.
     
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    Indeed I am.

    The beauty of this plan is that even if I will buy new monitor next year, I already have horse power to run it decently.
     
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    I bought a 780 at launch for what the 1080ti goes for these days for 1080p/60. I can't say I can fault you or anyone else for going 1080ti :p My 780 lasted me just over 3 years and probably would've lasted longer if I hadn't replaced it on a whim for more VRAM and to be rid of the stock cooler (I hit temperature limits often).
     
  8. Emille

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    I don't know why people would say it doesn't make sense.

    There are a dozen games that only run at 45fps avf with AA turned off with a 1080ti @4k, so it's safe to assume that there are drops...maybe 30-35 frames with that average.

    If you are someone who wants all settings maxed including hairworks etc and other bloatware, and you want a 60 frame min at all times, you need a 1080ti @1080p.

    I know people think that if you compromise at 4k and almost get 60avg that means it's overkill for 1080p but sometimes you justt want s buttery smooth no compromise experience. Nothing wrong with that.

    EDIT: justsaw that he already has a 1080 and doesn't plan to buy a new monitor until next year...so no, it makes no sense.

    I dare you to name 5 games that you plan to buy that are COMING OUT between now and next year when you buy your monitor that will not run at 60fps on the 1080 you have now...I can understand wanting to conquer the demanding back catalogue...but there is nothing coming out that would justifiy it and by the time you get your new monitor a new series of cards will have come out that are 60% faster than your 1080 compared to a 1080tu which is 35% faster...and you would get the newer one for the same money...

    The only reason I upgraded from a 1080 to a 1080ti which will arrive this week....is because I am already at 4k and hence can't wait that long.
     
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  9. Terepin

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    I'm not planing to upgrade to Ti. I just wanted to discuss it, because it is popular opinion.

    Actually, RotTR was too much at few place even for 1070. FC4 is too much even for 1080.

    Games with built-in SSAA look spectacular at 4x (with the exception of RotTR, which somehow manages to look a lot worse). The Talos Principle is mesmerizing, Metro Redux breathtaking (although 1080 Ti can't run it smoothly at SSAA 4x, only 3x), The Vanishing of Ethan Carter Redux is pure porn for the eyes with SSAA 4x + TAA.

    So you see, there is purpose of having 1080 Ti for 1080p/60 Hz monitor. And when 2080 comes out, it will too have sense to buy it for it.
     
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  10. RealNC

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    You don't need a 1080 Ti for that though. For 60FPS, a 1080 will maintain that.

    That's not 1080p though. 4xSSAA or DSR 4x counts as 4K, not 1080p.

    True.

    Sounds fine, except that I'd say you "need" at least 1080p@144Hz. Right now, the Ti is a bit of waste for 60Hz.

    Also, the 1080 Ti is not enough for 4K@144Hz. The GPU that can deliver that on modern graphics-heavy games has not been invented yet. (Or at least not sold yet.)
     

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    It's not about whether you are going to upgarde....part of the argument for the merits of buying a gtx 1080ti for 1080p gaming has to include value. And value isn't calculated by working out relative frame rate to other cards per dollar, it is done by measuring that AGAINST what you currently have. So for me in australia...I just paid $1249+22shipping...so get a 35% performance increase, now you have to take into account what else is available...

    If there had been a card with 50% increase for $1500, or a 70% increase for $1900...they would all have been better value because the performance INCREASE per dollar is much higher.

    You also have to take into account the need/circumstance. I bought it because I am already at 4k and NEED it for smoother game, now I'm still not going to have as smooth a time with a ti at 4k as someone would be at 1080p with a regular gtx 1080...so my need was greater, further justifying spending the money if I want anything lose to the performance I want

    So yes....a 1080ti for 1080p is justified...depending on what gpu you have and how much disposable money you have. Going from a 980 to a 1080ti would be probably a 100% increase...maybe a bit more in some cases. But for you...if you were in the market....you would be dumb to buy one given that you won't really need it to any non trivial degree until when you got a new monitor...by which time the next series will be out.
     
  12. airbud7

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    I wish I had y'alls kind of money!....My ugly wife would leave me if I bought a 1080ti on credit card....


    Oh wait!.....That^ might be a good plan for me.....:D
     
  13. A M D BugBear

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    I mostly only game @ 1600p or higher with sick ass quality settings and hardware forced aa through via(nvidia inspector).

    I agree on the Anti-aliasing part, Try running BF1 or any today's games w/enhance aa + nvidia inspector 8xmsaa + 8xsgssaa, Or even @ 32xs, :)!!!!!

    But watch out, your video card or cards can and will exceed the tdp limit, and the card will freeze like no tommorrow, unless you modded your card's tdp to handle the extra juice cause SparseGrid AA does add Quite a bit more Power draw to your cards.

    I know, while doing some benchmark testing with BF 4, with 8xmsaa+8xsgssaa, the card was going over tdp limit, I had to further do some bios tweaking, now its fully stable, does not throttle down, its at 325 tdp now, temps are decent.

    But the problem is, If I go below my native resolution, it becomes BLURRR-RY!!.
     
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    Obviously this reads like you are trying to justify your purchase
     
  15. Witcher29

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    Because 60 hz [60 fps for that card on 1080p is overkill even with AA
    If u have a 120 hz or 144 hertz monitor then its a different story.

    Unless u using DSR that with AA on top of it then its no overkill :p
     

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    It's definitely not overkill.

    Maybe in the past it would have, but nowadays with things like DSR and many games having their own downsampling solution it is very easy to tax a 1080ti on a 1080/60 screen.
     
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    1080P 60FPS Vsync, that's gross.
     
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    I think its great chasing a dream of being able to play at your monitor's maximum specifications and you'll definitely do that with a 1080Ti.

    I'm also chasing that dream but it's much harder at 1440p/144Hz.
     
  19. RealNC

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    That's 4K, not 1080p.

    The screen has nothing do with game resolution.
     
  20. Terepin

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    But the point of this discussion is about 1080p/60 Hz screen.
     

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