German government: Windows 8 is a security risk

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  1. StewieTech

    StewieTech Chuck Norris

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    If someone really wants to take control of your pc and know how things work, firewalls and anti-virus don´t really matter. Those programs are good to the little malicious codes that come from porn sites and emails though.
     
  2. BetA

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    did some even read teh whole text ???
    IM in germany, and the news here are a bit different..
    Anyway, for teh ones, that are 1. to stupid to read, or to lazy..heres an little nice Video explaining this trusted chip and why it isnt good for CONSUMER!

    Watch it, its quite interesting...(and in english)
    Also, im gonna link to an news site in germany. yeah its german, but i think u can find ur way to read it in EN..

    and:

    http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/17814-deutsche-regierung-warnt-vor-windows-8.php

    and:
    http://www.computerbase.de/news/2013-08/regierung-warnt-vor-nsa-hintertueren-in-windows-8/

    if u read them and UNDERSTAND this, also read some comments, u will see it is about something else..U guys sometimes make me sick..The people saying, i have nothing to hide are worst of all..

    You guys really wanna live in a world where teh industry says whats good and bad..whats right and wrong?

    Jeeeez.......(even the universitys in germany, IT firms and so on are taking this serious..Amerika is going crazy these days..(of course i mean the goverment, Multimillion buisnesses, etc, NOT the normal Person..i have Familly in America too..so..)
     
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  3. Loobyluggs

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    They certianly have a disproportionate view of the world and don't seem keen to embrace other nations for who they are, trying to shape them into their way of thinking.

    Population of the entire North American continent is barely 400 million, compared to Europe which is 650(ish - citation needed) but to talk to someone in politics you'd think the USA constitutes the entire planet and therefore anyone not from there must be made to think as they do, because they are the dominant apex. It's quite perplexing and baffling to witness. My own country is pretty bad for this also, and I see a great many similarities in thought process and belief systems, when the reality is, essentially, we all sleep under the same stars.

    On topic, yes; operating systems will never fully protect you. Welcome to workin with machines that were designed by human beings. As humans are flawed, so are machines.
     
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    Agree, they are like children who are not smart enough to understand that they are abused. So, I understand when teenagers say that, but when grown ups express such opinions then it means that they finally turned into grey mass with slave mentality who have no ambitions left and are not planing to stand up for anything (which leads to competition and possible enemies).
     

  5. sykozis

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    The industry already says what's good and bad. Where have you been?

    Doesn't matter what country you live in. Everyone is a slave to gov't.

    No.... Only real difference between "these days" and days past is that secrets are now getting out.


    Seems most, if not all, of this forum supports "trusted computing" in one way or another. Most of us are using Intel processors while Intel is a major supporter of "trusted computing".... Those not using Intel, are using AMD...who is also a major supporter of "trusted computing". Most of us are also running Windows....while Microsoft is among the biggest supporters of "trusted computing"...

    This article, while attempting to give an explanation of "Trusted Computing", gives a nice list of cons and why we, as users, should be completely against "Trusted Computing"...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing

    I maybe reading too far into your post, but it seems to me that you're over-generalizing here. Not all "Ameircans" have such a thought. Some of us actually like the fact that not everyone or every country is the same. Would make the world extremely boring if that were the case. Some of us actually like learning about other countries and cultures....even though the US Gov't (and book writers/publishers) makes it rather hard. Hell, that's part of why I joined this forum. The vast wealth of different people from different countries and cultures.

    The population of the US alone is over 316.5 (316,511,000) million people. The reported population of Mexico is roughly 112.3 million people. The reported population of Canada is 34.48 million people. That's over 463.8 million people on the North American continent.... That hardly classifies as "barely 400 million"
     
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  6. Loobyluggs

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    I was speaking specifically about politicians.
     
  7. Redemption80

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    We all know the government watches the people, it always has and always will be this way, freaking out about it is stupid especially if your posting this stuff on an internet forum.
    I do find it ironic that the government of a country like Germany that in notorious for trying to control its citizens is going on about this though.

    Nowadays privacy is better than ever, before people were dumb and had the illusion of privacy, now no-one does, or at the very least it's not as one sided as in the past.

    It might be easier than ever for the government to spy on what the citizens are up to, but it's just as easy for the citizens to find out what the government are up to as well.

    The paranoid nuts need to leave those who say they have nothing hide alone though,just because someone else is happy and your not does not give you an excuse to try and bring them down to your level, and while you might call it blind ignorance they will likely die happy and you probably wont.
     
  8. Motaba

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    Concerned about this we shouldn't have ever bought these computer things.

    This only became a concern once we got modems.

    I agree with a lot here. There's more urgent things to worry about, we're printing $85 billion / month to keep spending it and we're pushing $17T in debt and not going to argue, I've heard people say we can pay it off, etc. It's always compared to GDP which is the amount of goods and services we produce as a nation, not what the government collects in taxes which is around 3-4T. As soon as we stop printing, a whole **** storm is coming soon. I'm not a conspiracy theorist or a Rep. or Dem. just can add, have common sense and like the one half that buy into this stuff they also as I really can't wrap my head around $1T and we have $90T in unpaid obligations by 2026. Nations are abandoning the dollar as the worlds currency and being that it's backed by our emotions alone and faith in our government there are bigger problems. No one gives a hoot, the Germans just know when we collapse so do they and let's lambast Windows 8. I like DirectX 11.1 and if they want to d/l my whole drive go ahead.
     
  9. BetA

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    Well. didnt want to make a new Thread , so ill put it here: (since its kinda related)

    Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/23/nsa-prism-costs-tech-companies-paid
     
  10. sykozis

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    How does that have anything to do with the security of Windows8?
     

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    Exactly what I was thinking.

    I've spent the last decade assuming that Internet use was monitored, shocking news would of been revelations that no spying has went on.
     

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