Uncharted 4 A Thief’s End

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    Ah good point.

    Now that you mention it, id actually preferred a few more years before another Uncharted as to give them a bit more time to get use to the ps4 hardware. Though if Sucker Punch's work is anything to go by, then i guess we've nothing to worry about.
     
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    I love uncharted and for all i care they can keep making them as long as they keep their high standards! If Nathan ages so much, how would Sally look?! Also i hope they will put harder puzzles in the game.
     
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    It's might be a few years away anyway, plus with this generations hardware there is less for them to get used to.

    I'm half way through replaying the second game and other than the res, it still looks really good.
     
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    Naughty "america" dog, are great game porn illusionists :), so we need to wait in order to find out, if this game will look like these for real.

    http://gearnuke.com/last-us-cutscene-vs-gameplay-graphics-tease-graphical-jump-expect-uncharted-ps4/
    For example cutscenes in TLOU and uncharted 1-3 were pre-rendered, and some people thought it's gameplay, now it could be the same with uncharted 4. To be honest, that Nathan Drake model in Uncharted 4 looks wayyy better than last Nv demo "new dawn" (for 680GTX SLI), and it's hard to belive, any game on ps4 will ever feature quality models like that.

    About 60fps part, ND only said, they are "targeting" for 60 fps. It could also mean 25-60 fps, like in Killzone Multiplayer on ps4.
     
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    lol , so far a lot of people cant tell the difference with CGI and real gameplay (on many games) anymore. which is great :D
     
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    I think nd has two teams so im hoping the other team are working on tlou 2 as the first one is a masterpiece.
     
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    That was pretty clear it ain't cgi when you look at it closer tbh. In-engine I thought tho naughty dog did that with all uncharteds in-engine that is.

    I had misconception at first surely.
     
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    If uncharted 4 was indeed running in real time, I will'be buying both consoles and not decent PC anymore. For games like goat simulator and multiplatform junk I will be buying just old/cheap computer hardware parts, because why to bother ? Honestly, Nv demo "a new dawn" looks like joke compared to uncharted 4 graphics, and it was made for 680GTX SLI!!!

    E3 PC exclusives ; nothing
    E3 Consoles exclusives : plenty

    GTA5 was the biggest announcement out of E3 2014 for PC, and it's not even exclusive. So where's PC exclusives ? I know, there are still PC fans out there, that would act, as if nothing happened, but I'm a PC gamer since quake 1 (I had voodoo 3dfx, voodoo 3, geforce 2 GTS, geforce 3 ti500, geforce 6800 Ultra, 8800 Ultra, and now 680GTX), and current situation is far from good.

    The only good thing is, we will play multiplatform games with better quality. But with what costs ? Nv "optimised" games runs with problems even on their titans 1000$ GPU.

    In my opinion, we live in a times now, when Nvidia.and AMD should do a lot more, than just making GPU's. They should make great PC exclusives for their cards, because without exclusives PC gamming will end, maybe not tomorrow, but soon.
     
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    ^This +1
     
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    This will never hapen as long as your hardware is kicked in the nut sack by an API. AMD is trying something, but it's hard to push devs to use Mantle instead of DX. The future for pc is linux (i hope steam can create a trend and force devs to move to opengl which is more in touch with the hardware then that dx crap).

    like i said, ND will raise the bar with next gen graphics. To bad only one or two dev teams have this aim when creating games. Reading that was actual in game i'm not sorry i sold my gaming pc..fock it..look what a bunch of talented people can to with this little box..man o man..can't wait for this.
     
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    The problem for the last 5+ years is PC gaming has become something for bragging rights via hardware. Yes, a 3-way sli 780 titan system is going to be extremely powerful and owners puff out their chests as if they should be bowed down in front of for owning them. But at the end of the day, those super rigs are simply playing the same games that are on consoles, but with a higher resolution and better AA samples. To me, PC gaming is a HUGE waste of money. There is not enough difference for me, to warrant spending on annual upgrades to simply brag that I play the same game that's on xb1 or ps4 at a higher resolution.

    Like you, I was a PC gamer of the early 90's. I remember playing the original doom, quake 1...games that were EXCLUSIVE to pc. Now when you bring that argument up with pc gamers they'll rattle off 50 half-assed indie titles and rts games that don't push the hardware and aren't selling gpu's (nor are they very interesting but that's my personal taste).

    I said it 2 years ago, when the new consoles hit, I was done with pc. The day both consoles launched last November, I bought them. I have not bought a game on PC since.

    Some say "why be a fanboy, just play everything" I agree, which is why I have a xb1 and a ps4, but pc? That's just a system that gets shoddy ports of 3rd party titles. I see it as a waste of money to keep it going. I'm in my 30's and have other things I'd rather spend the money on, these consoles push the graphical envelope, PC just talks about how it can push the graphical envelope.

    PC these days is like a super muscular weight lifter that tells everyone he can bench press 500lbs but just keeps lifting the same amount as everyone else in the gym.

    nVidia and AMD should stop making tech demos and create a studio to make games that specifically take advantage of their cards. They have the resources and honestly, they would lend from each other. If nVidia made a PC exclusive game that looked amazing, people would buy it and others would upgrade their hardware to play it. It would justify nVidia continually making gpu's for more than simply ports. Same goes for AMD.

    I can't figure out why neither had done such to ensure their survival in the graphics place. Nvidia, especially.
     
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    They are competing against each other, that is why they would not join forces to create a studio, and they clearly would never agree on who's hardware would be the basis for any game they made.

    The api used is not as much an issue as people make out, Mantle has proven that and Linux is a complete non starter due to a lack of support and the fact OpenGL is even less efficient than DX.

    I still wouldn't get excited about the game looking like that trailer, a cutscene rendered with the engine and gameplay on that engine is two very different things.
     
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    Very true but if they can get close like they did with the first three UC games then I will be happy. These games are a couple of the highlights on the PS3 and one of the reasons that the PS3 became my primary console over the XBox360.
     
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    ^^ After Halo 3 (which i thoroughly enjoyed), xbox 360 had nothing for me.

    @ SerotoNiN & LuckNumber8

    Couldnt agree more.

    If consoles could deliver a minimum of 60fps and 1080p, id drop Highend (whatever that is. Mods?) pc gaming and use my pc for nothing but legacy support like Quakes/Unreals and emulators. Emulators of which are emulating what? thats right.. console games. Wii, GameCube and PS1/2. The ps1/2 is almost redundant as nearly all my fav titles from those gens have received the HD remake and run at 1080p/60fps. 180p+ and 60fps are pretty much the only thing keeping me from going completely console only besides the aforementioned legacy pc games.

    The only game on pc to grab me the way Uncharted and such console games have grabbed me is probably... I cant think of one that isnt also on the console.

    All and i mean all.. its not up for debate.. all the innovation is happening on console. Sure pc gets to 'finger' Oculus and that other vr project, but Sony's doing that too and to a greater, faster extent it would seem. Yet pc gamers just go on and on about Crysis 3 and all its engine features. Fact! The game looks avg, cartoony and camp. Great that CE3 the engine has all these features, but it doesnt use them very well, and to this day i still maintain and believe that Crysis 1 has far more going for it over the other two, regardless of it not having Tess, fancy soft shadows and resonating arse fart particles with integrated DOF that activates when you zoom in to take screenshots of the ground and tree trunks..

    Though, i will be getting No mans Sky for PC, same for GTA5.
     
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    Opengl is supperior to dx when comes to performance. On my crappy little laptop meto last light on dx runs with everything max in 15fps, on linux it runs in 30fps..and it looks exactly the same (for the naked eye anyways).
    And keep in mind the metro on linux is a port from the mac version (not developed for linux kernel) also nvidia's drives ae still buggy.

    Have a look at the order, the cutscenes are rendered in game and they are the same thing as gameplay. Using api is a deal breaker, that's why consoles shines.
     
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