WAS arranged... i have the feeling Nvidia is breaking a bit the things by release this 7xx series ( who is mostly based on Kepler GK104 anyway rebadged ). AMD look to have jump from Sea Islands to Volcanic Island directly.. but then Nvidia will release Maxwell.. ( Have we allready seen any of them at the same time say, we will delay our arch ? ) The end of the year and first Q1 2014 ( maybe a bit faster of that for AMD ) could be really intersting, specially after this 2013 break ,.
Seems like prices are going up everywhere, I guess that PC gaming is subject to the same law. Not very good pricing though imo
I need a new card so I dunno what I'm going to do. For $500 I'd buy it, for $600 I dunno, for $800 hell no.
I'm pretty sure that Nvidia will price it this high but I'm even more sure that they will sell out in record time regardless. There's no shortage of people out their without common sense and the ever-nagging urge to enhance their e-peen.
If someone is willing to spend $800 on a graphics card he almost surely can just pay the difference and get a full Titan instead of this thing. Anyway, let's wait till an official announcement.
Damn... $800.... idk if its worth it. I think a lot of people are seeing this right just out of the Titan bieng a $1k card... which imo was wrong also. There is not even custom cooler version for titans (aside from evga waterblock).... i really hate 2013 on the gpu side... haswell seems like a 5-10% upgrade in cpu.... its like spending tons of money and not really improving much.
This is what happens when the competition on one side is far lower then the other. I am sure by now every one who cares about it knows the GK104 GTX680 was really the 660ti and the GK110 Titan is what the GTX680 should have been all along. Nvidia is out to make money, and if people buy them they will keep selling at prices like this. I will skip a year or two before I buy any new GPU's from any company, might just spend my upgrade budget on a PS4!
So is this why both Nvidia and AMD are selling cards from all the way below $100 to $400-500, where 99% of people buy their cards? Then Nvidia release a $1000 (originally compute) card, and there is no competition. Logic. This is not the next generation of cards. The rumored GTX760 Ti and GTX770 are refreshes of GTX670 and GTX680, so we are in the same generation. The rumored GTX780 is GK110, and it's a different chip altogether. With Titan, you're getting next-gen performance 1 year ahead. That's what happens when you pretty much re-release your best compute chip in a consumer graphics card, when your yields are high enough to do so. Before that, GK110 yield was to feed the Titan supercomputer's demand of about ~18,000 GPUs. New generation is Maxwell; it will NEVER have these prices. It will follow the previous cycles. When will people stop believing this nonsense? GK110 would NEVER have been ready in March. Nvidia had trouble with GK104 yield, let alone GK110, a much bigger, more complicated chip. Don't you think there was a catch to the *magical* GTX670s (being 680s that didn't pass checks) being released a month later at $400 with barely a performance difference compared to the GTX680s, which were, back then, mythical and always out of stock?
@yasamoka Not really, nvidia said GK104 is really a 299$ gpu/chip with mid-range perf., but since it was on par with stock 7970 (back then with older drivers) why not sell at the same price and make it a high-end gpu. And that's what they did, I cant blame them though, but i blame them for such high 580GTX price for so long, AMD had no choice but to ask at least 550$, 580GTX was still at ~ 450$ and then it started.. So in the end its nvidia that screwed us 2x :grin: @Lane Thanks for VI info!
If GK110 was ready at the time, you'd see a 2x jump in performance between generations. When did that happen, considering that Kepler itself is a derivative of Fermi (nothing special, just progress)? That's disregarding the yield issues they had with GK104 back then. So they had GK110 ready and gathering dust? Why did it then take 6 months for them to release the Tesla K20X? Why not release it ASAP and just leave GK104 in GeForce to fend off the 7970? And worst of all, why not release it anyways and price it at >1k?
Well, let's be honest here... titan is a bigger improvement over the 680 than the 680 was over the 580, than 580 over 480, and so on and so forth. The problem isn't that you don't have improvement, it's that prices are going up into 'uncomfortable' levels. Just a few gens ago people cried over 500 bucks like as if someone had just killed their puppy. Now they say 'if its only 500 then I'll get one'. 1000 is the new 500... and it hasn't been long. Soon 1500 will be the new 1000. Granted that 1000 dollar cards have been around for a while, as novelties. But its 'new gen time' and the new kid on the block IS the 1000 dollar card. You can call titan a novelty, but its taken off in the absence of other upgrade options, and all the time that's gone by since the recent gen has been out. -scheherazade
Well, I'm still on 2 x 460 so I've skipped the 5xx and 6xx series and will most likely skip the 7xx series too at those stupid prices!! Like WTF Nvidia?