1080 Ti on 1080p@60 Hz and why it makes sense

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  1. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Amen brother, I hear you on that dream :D
     
  2. RealNC

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    Well, the thread then would seem to claim that "many people" consider a 1080 Ti to be overkill for a 1080p *screen*.

    That is not true. Nobody is saying that. OK, maybe not nobody, but it's certainly not the popular belief. What the popular belief actually *is*, is that the 1080 Ti is overkill for 1080p gaming. You can do 1080p gaming on a 4K monitor if you wanted. And DSR to 4K on a 1080p screen is not 1080p gaming, it's 4K gaming.

    Those are two different things :-/

    Perhaps you should clarify.
     
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    Tbf, I thought his post was pretty clear which is why i made my comments.

    The OP mentions higher resolutions than 19x10, but maybe the thread should be renamed to why a 1080ti makes every on a 1080/60 screen?
     
  4. alanm

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    By the same standards OP believes 1080p 60hz for 1080ti is acceptable, why werent people still on 1280x1024 or 1680x1050 with 780ti when that was top card? You could have made the same argument for the lesser res, older card as you are for 1080ti today.

    For some silly reason, 1080p is seen by some as an eternal resolution which can be justified even by a 3070ti some 3 years from now.
     

  5. Emille

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    Seriously? Do you REALLY not see the difference between 1280x1024 or 1680x1050 on a 780ti compared to 1080p on a 1080ti?

    Firstly literally no one who owned a 780ti ran with a screen with a native res or aspect ratio of a 1280x1024 screen, next it is extremely unlikely that when the 780ti was out that more than 0.05% of pc users were even using 16x10 displays anymore. They basically stopped making that aspect ratio as soon as 1920x1080 became the standard res and ratio for what would become full hd tvs. So in both of your examples you would be running non native res and non native aspect ration...

    1080p is the standard....and it will be for years. Standard aspect ratio and native res for almost all pc gaming monitors. 1080p was also a long established standard when the 780ti was out so your example makes no sense.

    60hz monitors are also standard and would make up well of 99.9% of all monitors refresh rates, so it is a very reasonable and rational standard to try and fullfill to it's greatest capability.
     
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    You missed the point. Yes, we know 1080p is the standard (for the masses). Of course 1280x1024 looks horrible and 1680x1050 not far behind. But to many (with capable hardware), 1080p 60hz is now just as off-putting today as those lower resolutions many years ago. So why the F would anyone with capable hardware forgo 1440p (or higher) just for sake of 16x or 32x AA on 1080p? The latter would still not look as good or as immersive. That is assuming proper size monitors for these resolutions. With 1080p you are stuck on small monitors (24", unless you like seeing pixels). 1440p you can go 27-32". Bottom line, higher res on bigger displays even with lower AA is more appealing than lower res and higher AA on small monitors. DSR sucks vs native and you're still stuck with small monitors using it. That is the major point against 1080p monitors (for enthusiasts with capable HW, imo).
     
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    Nah, I have to disagree here. Downsampling/supersampling results in an image with less artifacts compared to native 4K displays. Shimmering due to aliasing is still a thing with 4K displays. 4K on a 1080p display has virtually no shimmering.

    That doesn't mean downsampled 4K is better than native, of course. I'm just saying that there are some benefits to downsampling vs native.
     
  8. Netherwind

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    Maybe one day mate ;)
     
  9. Witcher29

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    SLI for now :dave:
     
  10. The Goose

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    Because a 1070 can do 60hz 1080p pretty much maxxed at half the price
     

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    1080Ti on 1080p 60HZ? In my other Rig, with a 1080p 75hz, I can max out almost every game with only an RX 580..

    Is it overkill using 1080Ti SLI on a 3440x1400 100hz Monitor? :)
     
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    As mentioned, it's not 1080p though. It's up to and including 2160p.

    That probably is as MGPU support is very spotty these days.
     
  13. mahanddeem

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    Agree with OP.
     
  14. fantaskarsef

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    Depends on what game and if you really put it on max. Overwatch for instance is rather forgiving, I'm running second highest settings always above 144fps. But yeah, BF1 for instance is just a bit short. But on the other hand, I'm currently using my CPU at stock...


    Uhm no thanks. We're talking about single GPU, and SLI isn't even that great anymore. I bought the 1080Ti to get away from SLI, was about 50% of my reason to get one.


    Pretty much maxxed is not what OP is about. It's about maxed + probably downsampling.
     
  15. Witcher29

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    50% more reason to get another 1 then, i have 50% more performance with my second ti :)

    The Witcher 3
    Metro Redux series
    Lords of the fallen
    Far Cry 4
    Serious Sam Fusion [maximum settings looks so nice with SSAA and AA together and get a silky smooth 144 fps ]

    Doom
    Deus Ex Mankind Divided
    Shadow Warrior 2
    GTA 5

    And i can go on, SLI is the future for upscaling and native 4k resolutions with monitors above 60 hertz.

    But lets stay ontopic about the single GTX 1080 Ti not being overkill with DSR or 4K resolutions @ 60 fps xD
     

  16. fantaskarsef

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    Yeah let's not go OT too much, but sadly I have to disagree with you on 75% of what makes SLI great for you. Just my personal opinion though, if you see it making sense, that's great, I am by no way trying to tell people not to reach for the sky :D
     
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    It's not that off topic, as the argument could be made for having two 1080ti's for a single 4k screen as well, especially if they choose to run DSR themselves.

    Doom has to removed from the list above though, there is no SLI support for that game.
     
  18. Witcher29

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    It works fine here with alternate frame rendering 2.
     
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    No offence, but anyone who cares about input lag would never use v-sync. its terrible. Wanna get rid of tearing go 144hz or higher, its absolutly minimal, if you run above 144 fps, just cap it, many ways to do that. Gsync/freesync isnt worth much at 144hz imo. I have owned gsync monitors, and i dont want it again, gsync has a number of drawbacks, such as scanlines, horizontal waves running down screen with certain backgrounds(yeah i could have turned off gsync on desktop but its to much hassles to go ON/OFF with that all the time. The added cost and so on. Gsync isnt worth anything to me if i have 144hz display.

    1080ti sense for 1920x1080 ? sure if you like ultra smooth gameplay :) But cmon, go at least 2560x1440 27" or higher inches, much better image quality and better awareness.
     
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  20. Terepin

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    That lag can be minimized with framerate limiter. Besides, I care about screen tearing a lot more than about input lag.
     

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