High End Audiophile thread

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by ROBSCIX, Jan 2, 2013.

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  1. Mufflore

    Mufflore Ancient Guru

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    My G*D, JPlay is amazing.
    Everything I play has so much extra detail, currently on Abba and theres things I've never heard before, its such a crisp sound, stereo effects and imaging are phenomenal!

    Phoned my brother and asked him to plug a laptop in and compare using this player to CD.
    He is going to try WAV from a USB hard drive direct to the player, but is reluctant to use his laptop as he's busy, I'll convince him, it may take a week :)

    I'm using these changes from default in JPlaymini:
    Buffersize : Directlink
    Engine : Beach
    Memory : 1GB
    Throttle : On

    Flippin eck.
    Get some silver cables and try.
     
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    Just to have your impresion

    Amp:Roksan Candy MKIII
    CD :Roksan Candy
    Speakers:ASW opus L-06
    Inteconnect:QED Silver Spiral with wbt connector
    Power cable Interlac
    Speaker wire Atlas Equator 6n
    Subwoofer laugh a JVC Wood cone serie sound really good for that brand
     
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  3. ROBSCIX

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    You're welcome.:) Sounds pretty good here...the imaging and detail are excellent. Nice when you can push your gear with software and cheaper.
    I tried the mini last night but I got it working with foobar today, making it easier to navigate songs. I haven't really messed with too many settings as of yet. Maybe tomorrow I will try some fine tuning.
     
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  4. ROBSCIX

    ROBSCIX Ancient Guru

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    Sounds cool, why don't you hook your PC up to that system.
     

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    I cant my stereo is in the livingroom with my plasma tv.So i have buy the Logitech Z-623 2,1 THX.Sound very good for the price i only pay $135.00
     
  6. Mufflore

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    Yeah looks like a nice system.

    A friend came round so I sat him down and said tell me what you think of this.
    I played him The XX - The XX album that he knows well on my system.
    He asked what I've done to make it sound so good.
    When I told him it is just the audio player he asked for a further explanation but it is a bit over his head.

    He said its a pretty big difference.

    The thing thats mincing my brain about this player is that surely, a local memory buffer of even 1MB, data arriving in good time, power isolation with a local high precision clock will allow any DAC to perform to its best.
    Which is supposedly present in my DAC (on USB input).
    How on earth can this make such a difference?
     
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  7. ROBSCIX

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    Don't know without checking right into the programming. It sounds good just leave it at that. I used it today with a couple of new DAC's... Awesome.
    It's a puzzler for sure but I heard a few things in some well known songs I never noticed before.

    Have you checked on the price point of it? It is 99 Eur..
     
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  8. Mufflore

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    lol, the point of this thread is not to do this :)
    Or have I misunderstood?

    Yeah, quite a lot, but it does a lot.

    Haha, caught your edit, wont say anything :)
     
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  9. ROBSCIX

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    Just not much to figure out without looking at the code, the theory is sound I guess, loading everything into RAM first and depends on what is going on in the decoders.
     
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    ive found a plugin for foobar 2000 wich does this ´´send to ram´´ feature, i dont know to what extend does the quality diference is betwen these other players such as JPlayer, but i hope you guys can check it out, and feedback some results, theres also a plugin for kernel streaming, alltho its from 2006 idk if theres a benefit from it.

    http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_ramdisk
    http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_ks

    maybe the combine can save us some cash from the Jplayer offering.
     

  11. Mufflore

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    I'll have a go with them for sure, but my day is about to be wrapped up.
    Thanks for posting those, tomorrow beckons :)
     
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    I'd be interested in some feedback on those foobar plugins myself.
     
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    Too bad jplay crashes every time i try to use it with foobar 2k.
     
  14. Mufflore

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    I read that it conflicts with some other plugins, it might be worth starting from a fresh install.
    The mini player is sooo good though.

    I've got a bit of burnout after yesterday so am having a rest today.
    Will test those other plugins soon :)
     
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    How did you set it up and what happens when you try and play a track?
    You have to set foobar for NULL OUTPUT. That's was the issue I had, I didn't set it that way and it wouldn't play at all.
     

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    Funny enough it is a fresh install, I don't have any 3rd part plugins installed other then jplay. I think it don't like windows 8 or me in general.

    Oh I didn't know I had to set it as Null Ouput.
     
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    Yes, has to be set as null output. Let me know if that works for you.
    IIRC, Win8 is preferred for Jplay.
     
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    Yea it does works now, if only it doesn't mute the songs every so often.
     
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    It mutes the songs because it is a trial version.
     
  20. Mufflore

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    Lots of things are preferred for JPlay lol.
    Heres a few, I'm still reading:

    Low latency ram.
    Cpu that isnt running internal GPU.
    Intel CPU.
    Good stable PSU, even on external drives.
    ...

    It gets a lot worse!
    Full galvanic isolation on USB, optical preferred, but not just any old optical.
    (this applies to other situations too, its just that JPlay can expose the difference well.
    This apparently works very well on external USB drives as well !!)
    Using a new command shell instead of explorer.
    Using shorter filenames and placing files in the drives root lol!!

    High end digital audio is a lot more sensitive than I imagined :)
     
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