Third party Graphics Card hardware database

Discussion in 'MSI AfterBurner Application Development Forum' started by Unwinder, May 30, 2015.

  1. scorpscarx

    scorpscarx Guest

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    The Fury X has IR 3567B VC, maybe can be leveraged with afterburner? That is from the TPU review, and I don't have a card to confirm however. I have a feeling that it's either a bios or driver lock though, it would be awesome if afterburner would allow volting the Fury X where nothing else can atm.

    Another random question, but I hope buying an MSI card somehow trickles down to support you directly, it's one of the reasons that I like MSI cards.
     
  2. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Low-level aceess to Fury X I2C controller must be supported by AB core first before even talking about VRM model. And that requires the card to be intalled here.
     
  3. Assiduous

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    Gigabyte R9 270, IR3567A

    I can confirm successful testing of dual-loop voltage control via MSI afterburner over a Gigabyte GV-R9270OC-2GD that has an IR3567A VRM. Tweaking GPU and memory voltage impacts corresponding maximum stable clocks. Comparing the A and B version data sheets, the only difference listed is that the B variant complies with VR12.5 Rev 1.3 requirement for SVID register 15h to have <200 microsecond filter. As one would expect, it seems they haven't fixed what already works, namely the I2C interface.

    Nice work Unwinder! There is now just one reason for Gigabyte owners like me to use OC Guru 2. OC Guru 2 still provides a larger voltage adjustment range (but can only force a constant voltage)

    So, a small request. I know my card is stable at lower voltages than the -100mV max offset allows. Any chance of providing or hinting at a method of increasing the range? even if just increasing the maximum undervolt? -200 mV would probably be enough.

    regardless, thanks for improving MSI afterburner. Been using Rivatuner ever since I got my 3D Blaster TNT2 Ultra 15 years ago!
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2015
  4. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Did you test/confirm memory voltage control as well? According to feedback form other tester with the same card the second loop seem to be unused on it.
    On minimum voltage limit: you may edit the database file and add "CoreVoltageBoostMin = -150" for your card section (hint, hint, hint everyone ;)))).
     

  5. Assiduous

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    I went back and retested memory voltage adjustment using memtestCL, and actually i have to stand corrected. I have been unable to produce any significant impact on achievable memory clocks by manipulating the Aux Voltage slider.

    MSI AB now allows my card to run at maximum efficiency.

    Top stuff :)
     
  6. Edvin512

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    does it make sense?
     
  7. masteratarms

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    Sapphire RX Vega 56
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    Display device : AMD Radeon R9 200 Series on Tahiti GPU
    Display driver : 9.14.10.01128, Catalyst 15.7
    BIOS : 015.041.000.000
    GUID : VEN_1002&DEV_6798&SUBSYS_30041043&REV_00&BUS_1&DEV_0&FN_0
    Registry key : \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{8C65A37F-B787-464C-9978-2F1947F3366D}\0000
    VDDC controller : CHL8228 on I2C bus 6, device 30h
    MVDDC controller : CHL8228 on I2C bus 6, device 30h

    I've got a 2nd hand Asus 280x DC2T 3GD5, it has the memory artifacting problems which plague this model. Its default 1600Mhz @ 1.6v with naked Hynix GDDR5 & the DC2 heatpipe very close to the VRAM. I have modified the bios to 1300Mhz @ 1.6v. I believe there is a bios for DC2 (non top) which can set 1500Mhz @1.5v. The core voltage I briefly checked and its adjustable. However I'm interested in if the memory voltage can be changed via software. Currently when the slider is used it has no effect on the reading of Afterburner's monitor, always 1600mV.

    In fact the memory speed is not changing, but in Sapphire Trixx it did. It was still unstable at its lower limit of 1475Mhz so that's why I edited the bios to slower ram speed.

    I'm going to add a Kraken G10 and some RAM sinks, but still if the memory voltage was controllable in software it would help alot of users with this artifacting so common in this model.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2015
  8. Phyxsyus

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    So, i just figured that my Sapphire r9 280 3g dual-x OC with boost uses the NCP 4206 controller, I ran the tests as stated in chapter 4 as adivised.

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    Scanning I2C bus 6...
    Probing device 00...
    Invalid device
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    Scanning GPU VEN_8086&DEV_0152&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_09&BUS_0&DEV_2&FN_0...

    Yet, I only get "Invalid Device"

    I ran the other tests too as stated here:
    But my output is also invalid...
    Am I doing something wrong?
     
  9. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Yes, it is CHL8318. But you forgot to specify your graphics card device and subsystem IDs so I cannot add it to database yet.
     
  10. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Most likely you're scanning wrong buses. Third party voltage controllers are normally located on bus 6 on AMD cards. If you used provided CLI as is and just scanned buses 3 and 4 as it is shown in example, invalid output is expected.
     

  11. Edvin512

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    Scanning GPU VEN_10DE&DEV_13C2&SUBSYS_85091043&REV_A1&BUS_1&DEV_0&FN_0...
    Scanning I2C bus 0...
    Probing device 74...
    Invalid device
    Scanning I2C bus 1...
    Probing device 74...
    Invalid device
    Scanning I2C bus 2...
    Probing device 74...
    Invalid device
    Scanning I2C bus 3...
    Probing device 74...
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    Scanning I2C bus 4...
    Probing device 74...
    FF 00 00 FE FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    50 49 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 FE FF FF FF FF FF
    00 00 E9 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0A 28 89 07 E8 FF 80 77
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0F 07 E8 B6 15 39 18 1A
    43 FF FF FF FF FF 23 15 F8 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

    Correct?
     
  12. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Yep. Try to add the following to OEM2 database:

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    [VEN_10DE&DEV_13C2&SUBSYS_85091043&REV_??]
    
    ; ASUS GTX 970 STRIX
    
    Desc                                    = ASUS GTX 970 STRIX
    VDDC_Generic_Detection                  = 0
    VDDC_CHL8318_Detection			= 74h
    VDDC_CHL8318_Type			= 1
    
     
  13. Edvin512

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    That did the trick :)

    full voltage control now
     
  14. Unwinder

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    Thanks for testing, I've added ASUS 970 STRIX to third party database and updated the head of the thread.

    All

    A bit more good news on third party voltage control mode. New version of MSI Afterburner will add support for new voltage controller IR3595A, which is used on upcoming MSI 980Ti Lightning series graphics cards. So it will be possible to add voltage control via third party database for other vendor's graphics cards using the same controller (e.g. EVGA use IR3595A on 980Ti Classified series).
    Also, we'll discuss and probably change OEM2 database distribution model, I hope that MSI will agree to include third party database directly in the installer (probably as optional feature during installation) so you won't need to download the database manually from this thread.
     
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  15. cowie

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    oh nice I hope it makes it thruogh
     

  16. Phyxsyus

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    Ok guys,
    I just got voltage control on my Sapphire r9 280 Dual-X With Boost(UEFI)

    Code:
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    ; Custom design Sapphire ATI series
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    
    [VEN_1002&DEV_679A&SUBSYS_A003174B&REV_??]
    
    ; Sapphire Radeon Dual-X R9 280 With Boost UEFI
    
    Desc 					= Sapphire Dual-X R9 280 With Boost UEFI
    VDDC_NCP4206_Detection 			= 20h
    VDDC_NCP4206_Type 			= 1
    
    Turns out it's almost identical do the 280"X"...

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Unwinder

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    Thanks, I'll add it to database!
     
  18. Tomatone

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    Thank again Unwinder :) I use VDDC_Generic_Detection = 1 to raise voltage on my PowerColor R9 270. This card have NCP5395T controller.
    [​IMG]

    Code:
    ;OEM
    
    [VEN_1002&DEV_6811&SUBSYS_2337148C&REV_??]
    
    ; Power Color R9 270
    
    Desc                     = Power Color R9 270 TurboDuo
    VDDC_Generic_Detection             = 1
     
  19. Unwinder

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    Driver-level voltage control, which is enabled via VDDC_Generic_Detection, is pretty limited on AMD cards. Default VGA BIOS voltage table contains minimum set of voltages required for normal functionality of dynamic power management and the maximum voltage available there is normally already in use. Summarizing, VDDC_Generic_Detection doesn't allow you to increase voltage beyond default on the most of cards. So I'd use DMM, there are good chances that you don't alter voltage in reality.
     
  20. Tomatone

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    I understand that I can't go over GPU BIOS voltage settings but I can lift voltage to BIOS max value. Voltage for 955/1400 is 1.165.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    P.S.
    Did NCP5395T supports voltage control and monitoring via I2C?
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2015

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