Download Media Player Classic Home Cinema v1.6.5

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  1. BetA

    BetA Ancient Guru

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    ahh, i get it.. yes i have real 60/60...
    its converting it as u say with reclock i guess..even without reclock its working via madvr..
     
  2. RagDoll_Effect

    RagDoll_Effect Ancient Guru

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    Thanks, gonna try it :) I use Aimp3 for music, just a q, is aimp 2 better?

    regards,
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  3. ASLayerAODsk

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    well when i tried MPC...I could never get it to work...blah. re:60fps :p
     
  4. BetA

    BetA Ancient Guru

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    what did u try?
    u need help with that?
    i could help u via TEAMVIEWER or make some screens if u need it..

    What u need is:

    MPC HC
    MadVR
    LAV Filters (optional but best anyway)
    Reclock..

    thats what i use and it works flawless...I love it since MADVR has teh best quality there is. with its lanczos/spline, etc settings..

    -BetA-
     

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    BetA Ancient Guru

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    using AIMP 3 here myself..i think aimp3 is way better then 2. I have it setup to 192.000khz @ 32bit float via wasabi(5.1)..sounds awesome and teh player is great..Asio also works fine..
     
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    RagDoll_Effect Ancient Guru

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    Wasapi rocks I agree :) Cool, I stick with Aimp 3 :)

    regards,
    RagDoll.
     
  7. WhiteLightning

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    hmm i cant get it to 60 fps without using svp.

    the info still shows 24fps for the movie in the info pane in mpc

    if i enable svp it shows higher fps

    [​IMG]
     
  8. ViperXtreme

    ViperXtreme Ancient Guru

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    SVP works fine on my end, tho i haven't test it on the new MPC-HC
     
  9. BetA

    BetA Ancient Guru

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    erm, in windowed mode its not supposed to work..its working for me in Fullscreen Exclusive mode..

    when im in fullscreen, i get the fps, that matches teh HZ im in, in order 60 fps..

    make a double klick in the middle of mpc hc and let it go fullscreen, there should be an info on teh top left side for 1 or 2 seconds, saying "exclusive" or exclusive fullscreen..

    when this is displayed u are in the exclusive mode and teh fps are right..

    the screen you took, is clearly in windowed mode..

    Like i sayd its all about settings it up. a few hopurs ago honoredshadow pm´d me and i helped him setting up MPCHC with madvr and such., it works there, even he has amd..

    im on nvidia and it works 100%..

    if u want, i can make some screens from my settings, when im back on teh PC again..

    edit:

    i also see a lot of dropped frames in your screenInfo, thats a lot actually..are u aware of that?
     
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    k1net1cs Ancient Guru

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    That's one hot sound!

    :p
     

  11. thatguy91

    thatguy91 Guest

    madVR has just been updated to v0.85.4
     
  12. k1net1cs

    k1net1cs Ancient Guru

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    Nice, DXVA support is getting there.
     
  13. Mufflore

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    This is what I use with MPC-HC and SVP for double framerate.
    Its really very good!


    Note: you cant have 32bit audio, there arent any soundcards or media that support it.
    24bit max.
    External DACs are also 24bit, some have 32bit internal processing, but they cant make use of 32bit data passed to them.
    If you do set it to use 32bit, it will either not work or will be truncated to 24bit.
    So if you cant get 32bit audio to function, dont worry, theres nothing wrong with your kit :)
     
  14. BetA

    BetA Ancient Guru

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    hmm, that is true for digital or spdif passtrough etc..right?
    since im using Analog 5.1 i dont have these limitations..

    and my soundcard also supports 32bit, dts, asio and all that crap..

    and theres also media i think..at least some sound samples i use for music and classical studio tracks that i have are very high also..

    but im not 100% shure about it..so maybe u can enlighten me :)

    edit: also i mean 32bit floating - point, if that does matter...(in an exclusive mode..)
     
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  15. Mufflore

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    There are no 32bit input DACs on general release that I am aware of, but many process internally with 32bits.

    Take this for example
    http://www.whathifi.com/news/ces-20...-music-streamer-–-and-a-new-12000-phono-stage
    They call it a true 32bit DAC.
    It uses the ESS Sabre 9018 24bit input, 32bit internal, 7.1DAC for stereo.

    They start off by saying:
    Reading on a bit they reveal its actual capability
    This kind of new info release and reporting happens a bit too often, its easy to be mislead.
    I use the Sabre32 9018 Ultra DAC as well and it definitely accepts a max of 24bit input.

    PC soundcards or audio players may perform some software operations in 32bit before sending them to the DAC in 16 to 24bit, but the DAC isnt 32bit input.
     
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    Yes it is working, i see exclusive mode pop up, but the frames are still the same for me i think. Is there any way for that info tab to show itself full screen ?
    Overlays show the wrong value for me thats why i asked. 60fps even when i have got the movie windowed ,and is showing 48fps or something lower then 60fps. (in mpc)
    what do you use to show your FPS ?

    about those dropped frames, should i worry about that ? what could cause it ?
     
  17. BetA

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    droped frames can be caused by wrong settings in madvr, or something else..could be also that the buffer is too low..

    and for the other question, i use afterburner ;) to show me the fps..

    just setup afterburner like this and u can see teh gpu usage, vram usage, fps and more..its very usefull when setting up madvr, so u find teh limits of ur GPU.(lanczos 8 taps, etc, very performance intensive stuff).

    here is how afterburner needs to be configured:

    [​IMG]

    what are u using for decoding? ffdshow? lav filters?
    i use lav filters cause they have CUVID and high qulaity deinterlacing etc etc..and they work great..

    also, cause of teh droped frames..when in fullscreen, push STRG and J, so the info comes up. and see if teh frames are still droping in fullscreen mode..But reset teh stats before reading it..use STRG and R to reset teh stats..

    with a 23 fps movie i have in windowed mode = 23 fps and when i switch to fullscreen im at 60fps... no 48 fps , i think what u are using is frame doubling or so..24 times 2 = 48....
    what i do is syncing to my HZ..at least i think i am..
    Frame doubling is that stuff that splash player uses..i tested splash player but i hate it. doesnt even comes close to madvr/lav/mpchc...

    but i could be wrong, it shure sounds like frame doubling...since its 48fps like u say..
     
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  18. WhiteLightning

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    Yes SVP is a frame doubling technique. (hence why it gets 60fps,otherwise it would play at twice the speed lol) thanks for explaining msi, but it gave me exact numbers fraps shows.
    guess its not really increasing the fps when using just those renderers.
    Im used to the frame doubling technique , watch every movie with it. totally love it. (i have this feature also on my TV, but thats for TV broadcasts only (philips pixel perfect).
     
  19. BetA

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    i just double checked and, actually, its MadVR that gives me the hz/fps Sync.
    i just turned off reclock and it still worked..as soonest i used something else then madvr its also 23 fps or whatever teh movie has, in fullscreen.

    maybe im gonna try that svp thing, does it work with LAV and MadVR?
    cause i dont wanna miss madvr due its superior quality and options..(using full gpu potencial, etc)
     
  20. WhiteLightning

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    hmm strange. I dont have all the options though, since im using a AMD card on this pc. could be the problem.
    yes it works with LAV and MADVR, but it also requires FFDshow (which uses a avisynth script) for hooking the SVP.

    here is the link btw http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Download

    just use lite version. also download avisynth from there , and update from here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148782
    then also download ffdshow http://www.free-codecs.com/download/ffdshow.htm

    that should do it. remember you can also tweak svp :)
     
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