HD 4770 softmod to FirePro V8700, success!

I downloaded the file, extracted the .ma into a local drive, opened it, closed render and hypershade windows, and alt-dragged to rotate camera, looking at the stated fps (which varied quite a bit, depending on how many trees there were on camera)

3870 512MB firepro 8.453 - Q6600@3.0GHz - 2GB RAM - 5 to 14 fps
4670 1.0GB firepro 8.603 - Q6600@3.0GHz - 2GB RAM - 7 to 18 fps

I first tried to press play instead of rotating the camera by hand, but it freezes (0.1fps), with the CPU computing the position of the leafs (and swapping from the HD - I hate that)

the scene seems quite workable VGA-wise, but it's an excruciating pain for the CPU... which is not helped by the fact that maya is only using one core

by the way: you didn't include the .jpg and .tga files in the zip, so it didn't display those textures

(and yes: I didn't even bother to install the new drivers on the 3870, in fact I'm not using maya at all lately, it's fortran that's trying to pay the bills)

 

NormanBates 10x a lot . I'v got the same results with the textures on the scene. ( 5-14 fps win7 build 7201 x64) . So I will keep my 9800GTX for a while.
Just last question. Do you think a Quadro FX 580 will get better fps or is just the CPU fault. I do a lot of modeling in maya. What do you think is better for me a modded HD4xxx under xp maybe near future win7 or Quadro FX 580 wich is a real Quadro unde xp\win7 (vista sucks)\linux even OSX :thumbup: . Is there a huge differences between Quadro FX 580 or modded HD4xxx in normal scene like a complex caracter or something like that without paint effects & textures just a lot of smooth mesh, nurbs etc?I just saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y99mD_A1uug . There is a huge diferences between HD4850 & V3750. Do you think is the same for maya? I think the Quadro FX 580 is better then V3750 because it has more memory . So who has the bigest advantages? The modded HD4xxx or the Quadro?
Anyone? :cheers:

 

i get 15-22 fps in win7, but 22 in specviewperf. I guess this benchmark doesn't reflect true viewport performance.

 

Maryus3D, I will run it, but

I have a Quadro FX 570, FX1800, FX 380, FX580 , FirePro V3750 and FireV5700 for testing.

I had run SPECapc Maya 6.5 benchmark on Maya 2010. Except that, ı have no idea how to run Maya.

Therefore, where do I see the fps ?

 

Go to Display\heads up display\frame rate. It will show on lower right corner .

 

Correction and requst for Maryus3D.

1 ) I have Maya 2009 30 day trial installed, sorry for "Maya 2010" I mistakenly wrote.

2 ) Test configuration is :
Gigabyte G31 mobo
C2D E8400 3.0 GHz CPU
Quadro FX580 512MB DDR3 VGA card
2x2GB Kingston DDR2 667 MHZ RAM
XP 32 bit

3 ) Since I do not know anything about Maya, please download the following software. It is free for 30 day trial.

http://www.bbsoftware.co.uk/bbflashback.aspx

Then using it, record all steps I have to follow. After saving the video in its own format, export it to AVI format. It creates a 2MB file 2 minutes of screen recording. Put it somewhere I can download and using this forums "Private Message" utility send me the link of that file.

By the way, I think this software will be very useful for all of forum members.

 

I received a missing jpg file and 0.2 fps ....

I looked up Maya 2009 help and it says "starting with mentalray 3.3 renderer, there is no more OpenGL accelaration".

the error message is "//Warning: Texture file V:/islandcove/textures/board01.jpg doesn't exist, node hut_file5"

The fps is 0.2

 

hi khogan

* the error is there to stay: you don't have the textures (they were not included in the file) so they won't show
* mentalray is a renderer; I didn't expect any improvements in rendering, it depends only on the CPU



the fps should be close to 0.1 when you click play, but that's the CPU's fault

instead of pressing play, do this:
* open maya
* open the downloaded scene
* close all windows but the main one (that is, close hypershade, render view)
* maximize the maya window (if yot maximized already)
* place the cursor in the middle of the screen
* while keeping the ALT key pressed, click-and-drag somewhere in the middle of the screen

as you drag que cursor around with ALT pressed, the camera should rotate, following your moves

look at the fps in the lower righ corner, and post it here, please (you stated some fps above, I assume you already have that indicator working)

 

I gave him a link with a screan record on PM. Ohh boy i'm very curious . Any way I don't think specview shows the real potential of a card. For example the modded HD3870 give the same score as a modded HD4870 :3eyes: .

I read every single post on here http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=275174 . Is hard to beleve that in maya V7700 have the same performance as V8700 .

 

I was curious, so I installed the regular radeon drivers on the 4670... and fps are pretty much the same: 6 to 17

what the...??!!??!!

* it can't be that the new mod is not working, because I get similar results with the old mod on my 3870
* but I remember clearly the performance boost when I first modded my HD2600XT
* maybe the newer versions of maya (I'm still on 2008) and/or the standard radeon/geforce drivers make the pro cards pointless?

our results so far:
5 to 14 fps on unmodded 9800gtx
5 to 14 fps on modded 3870
7 to 18 fps on modded 4670
6 to 17 fps on unmodded 4670 (I'd say mod difference is rounding error)
15 to 22 fps on unmodded 4870

edit: I don't like the huge differences in those min-max numbers, and the fact that the "benchmark" is so arbitrary (results will depend on when you point your camera), I'm going to work a bit on a better version...

 

Well, this is getting very interesting...

before we get more people spending time into this, to avoid inconsistent results like the ones I think I was getting when playing around with different driver versions, I created an improved benchmark, building upon Maryus3D's scene (I killed the CPU intensive animation, then included some silly camera movement)

the file is here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/245597508/mayascene2.7z.html

if you don't have 7zip and/or you can't open .7z files, you can download a (much bigger) zip file with the same content here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/245601068/mayascene2.zip.html

this benchmark is easier to use and should give us more consistent numbers:
* download .7z or .zip, uncompress it into local drive
* open maya
* if you don't have it already in the lower-right corner, activate the fps display: Display\heads up display\frame rate
* maximize maya window
* open the mayascene2.ma file (it will still give you those "didn't find .jpg/.tga files" errors, it's no problem)
* press play, and look for the highest and lowest fps (should be around frames 130 and 210, respectively) (discard numbers from the first 80 or so frames, they're sometimes not accurate)



my results for this mayascene2 are:

4.2 to 6.5 fps on 3870 firepromod 8.453, Q6600@3GHz
5.5 to 8.6 fps on 3870 unmodded cat.9.5, Q6600@3GHz
5.9 to 9.5 fps on 3870 firepromod 8.603, Q6600@3GHz

5.5 to 8.7 fps on 4670 unmodded cat 9.5, Q6600@3GHz
6.0 to 9.7 fps on 4670 firepromod 8.603, Q6600@3GHz

at least for me, really puzzling...
my tentative interpretation so far (of course only applicable to maya) would be that the pro cards show the biggest improvements right where you don't need them: in a scene where you're already getting >25 fps, they'll give you 3x those fps

 

I'v got something like 6 to 8,7.

EDIT: Windows 7 x64 build 7201 & 185,85 GeForce driver.

:cheers:

 

Maryus3D scene, with Maryus and Norman's instructions FX580, fps :

While zooming in and out without pressing Alt key : 14 to 62 fps
While zooming in and out by pressing Alt key : 14 to 30 fps
While revolving the scene 8 360 degrees) by pressing Alt key : 12 to 44 fps

The fps depends on how many items are on the view, for example if ı zoom out where I can see volcano and island as small island, the fps is 8.2 - 15 fps. When there is little in the scene, like underwater , the fps is 60+ fps etc.

Generally the fps value is between 20 to 30.

I could not download NormanBates's zip files ( max download limit exceeded), I am now downloading it. Will report it back.

 

Thats not good news for the Quadro FX 580 . I was hoping for the FX580 to get something like 25 & up fps when you zooming out to see the volcano and the island & other stuff :wanker:. Same for the modded cards from ATi. Do you think that the scene's geometry is broken?

BTW in linux 64 and hackintosh 10.5.7 I,v got the same resaults .

 

FX580 results for NormanBates's Maya 2009 benchmark

8.8 to 12.8 fps on Quadro FX580, Driver date 22.04.2009 - version 6.14.11.8265, E8400@3GHz

 

FX580 and E8400@3.6GHz

10.8 to 15.6 fps on Quadro FX580, Driver date 22.04.2009 - version 6.14.11.8265, E8400@3.6GHz

The CPU speed was 3.6GHz in this test.. sorry fot he typo earlier.

 

khogan112 I apreciate a lot fot the testing. Thanks for everything :cheers: .

 

to compare these results to softmodded 4670, I repeated them with the real FirePro V5700 I have.

7.1 to 12.3 on a "real" FirePro V5700, Driver 8.603, E8400@3GHz
8.4 to 14.7 on a "real" FirePro V5700, Driver 8.603, E8400@3.6 GHz

Question : is this benchmark dependent on resolution ? I am running it on 1280x1024 pixels.

 

A lot of interesting stuff coming from this thread guys, keep it up.

In case anyone's interested, I'm getting 6.4 - 9.2fps in the mayascene2.ma using the old tried and true GeForce 6800 to FX4000 softmod with a Phenom II X4 940 3Ghz. I'm looking for a new card, so I'm watching this thread closely.

 

To all!
Just to be sure that the geometry of the island scene is not broken, I put a normaly scene without paint effect, textures and other hard stuff just a poly scene with smooth mesh preview. If I unsmooth all the polygons on the scene I'll get over 60fps and if I smoothed back I'll get around 12 fps :wanker: .
The island scene have 130MB, my bike scene only 10.7

http://rapidshare.com/files/249160829/bike.rar