New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. Denial

    Denial Ancient Guru

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    Well said and I agree.
     
  2. Valken

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    Going OT....

    I couldn't wait for Vega as everytime I enabled SVP or anything 3D, my PC would reboot or turn off. I know its the GPU since if I turned on the onboard GPU, no issues.

    So I head to the PC parts center in town and all the vendors here passed the 470/480 back to AMD to be "refurbished" to 570/580 (seriously was what 3 of them said to me).

    Dealers were charging 200 USD for 1060s and tried to sell me 570 4GB for the same! Grrr....

    I did find that one MSI ARMOR 480 4 GB for 174 USD but I ended up with a Forsa 1060 GTX Fury OC Edition for 183 USD. Just a box, GPU, CDROM and packing materials only!

    The ONLY reason I got it was because I am still on Windows 7 and don't play anything with DX12 (yet). Just ARMA 3 (DX11) and Brutal Doom (OpenGL) for now, but eyeballing Prey 2.

    Its my temp card until Vega comes out, then I will bung this card cheap on Guru and get then upgrade.

    PS: Man this GPU is shorter, uses only 1x 6pin plug, super cool, and is QUIET!

    PPS: Screen is totally washed out so I have recalibrate the TV again!!! GRR...
     
  3. Turanis

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    3GB? Common you can do better than this.
    6-8 GB are the way.

    I dont know if Vega will do better than what we have now on the market,but we should let hype flow down.
    We have Fury,but was a big nope,because low Rops,we have RX 480-580 (which again have low Rops) but will perform much better than Gtx 1060 in DX12.
     
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  4. Loophole35

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    Well seeing as he is still on W7 I don't think he cares about DX12. BTW the card he got will play both of the games he was talking about perfect. Don't jump on his case because he chose something different than you would. At 1080 and card in the $175-225 range will be great.
     

  5. Tuga

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    We can only hope that AMD will launch an affordable vega for people, so there will be both 1070 and 1080 competitors (in an ideal world that is). I don't see why they couldn't do both the high and mid tier.

    I don't know anything about volta. It could be a turd, or 2018 Q3, who knows?
     
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  6. Ryu5uzaku

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    It's not desperate unless nvidia and amd have been desperate for a long time.
     
  7. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

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    As for ATI vs nV (i ha.te this becuse there is no Progress, only $$$)

    look here and you'll see what MS is doing now to nV (same thing they did to Sound Blaster years ago to prevent them to have Monopoly)

    http://www.4gamer.net/games/033/G003329/20160317117/SS/017.jpg

    Maby THX to that ^^ we can have Progress on Track -> back again :banana:

    DX11.0 Era is finally comes to an End !
    There be no more GW or things like that in the future, uff

    And as for Mind Share :3eyes: we can't argue with such a treat :bang:
     
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  8. Skinner

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  9. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

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    :book:

     
  10. alanm

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    Someone posted on AMDs facebook page:

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    They gave him the coordinates for the star Vega :D.
     

  11. Undying

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    Seems like thats all they have.
     
  12. Truder

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    The sh*tposting on the reddit regarding the same thing is on another level. I guess this means Half Life 3 is confirmed.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Loophole35

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    So if Vega doesn't drop at computex what next?
     
  14. Valken

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    @ Onna - great video... very informative and I notice I always pick the hot heads of each GPU Family - Fermi 465 GTX, Cayman 6950 :D

    At least this 1060 GTX is very cool but still a GIMPED 3GB card with a few shaders less...

    @ Loophole35 - wait for Volta or just buy 1080Ti? There really aren't more other choices for us looking for Vega?
     
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  15. Loophole35

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    Honestly the performance of the updated 1080's is more tempting than the Ti. I just can't justify $700 for a GPU.

    And yes OnnA I know I'm getting somewhat off topic.
     

  16. OnnA

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    No -> Crysis 4 Vulcan 128Bit with HDR 512Bit :)
     
  17. user1

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    rebranding is a marketing strategy, neither nvidia nor amd can produce new silicon that quickly, seems as though both nvidia have adopted 1.5-2~ year new product release strategies

    examples:
    nvidia
    gtx 980 gm204 september 2014, gtx 1080 gp104 june 2016 1y8m~
    gtx titan gk110 febuary 2013, gtx titan X(M)gm200 march 2015 2y1m~
    titan X(m)gm200 march 2015 , titan Xp/ (p)gp102 early variant august 2016 1y5m ,late variant 2y1m~
    gtx 960 gm206 jan 2015 , 1060 gp106 july 2016 1y6m~

    amd
    7970 jan 2012, 290x october 2013 1y9m~
    290x october 2013, fury x june 2015 1y8m~
    7870 march 2012, r9 285 september 2014 2y6m~ (skipped gcn 1.2)
    r9 285 september 2014,rx 480 june 2016 1y9m

    Almost Every product stack has a rebrand or 3 in them, since development is not usually in sync (props to nvidia for managing to get most of their products in relative sync last year).
    This year is a rebrand/clock bump year for both amd and nvidia. I suppose amd could have called this refresh the rx 480 1.3ghz edition lmao.

    The catch is this year amd appears to have a highend product that has skipped a gcn generation, and has an extended the development cycle and has devoted extra resources to it. It may have been in development as long as polaris, as references to greenland first appeared in 15.301 along with ellesmere(polaris) unless of course greenland was a different gpu.

    I expect a june launch for vega, it may be very interesting.
     
  18. Truder

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    You've kinda misrepresented the rebrands there..

    The GTX 680 was rebranded as the GTX 770,
    The 7970 was rebranded as the 280X
    The R9 285 was rebranded as the 380
    The R8 290 series was rebranded as the 390 series
    The RX 470 is GCN 1.3 or GCN4. which is a die shrunk 380X but wither new hardware features and changes (think it has fewer aces but has the primitive discard acceleration).

    Oh, maybe I've misread your post, you're talking about new products? Well my examples are the rebrands anyway.
     
  19. user1

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    I was merely saying that the rebrands are a "necessary" evil since new chip designs(not rebrands) have a release cycle of about 1.5-2y.

    The market changes faster than that so they have to fill in the gaps with rebrands/clock bumps (7970 ghz edition for example to compete with the 680) , so far there is no new silicon apart from vega and polaris 12 for the first half of 2017 since neither amd or nvidia have any new mid range chips ready for full production.

    I would expect a polaris replacement (vega 11?) in q1_2018~ , and volta around the same time frame.
    just based on how long it takes for new chips/finalized products to be developed

    even companies like intel which have practically infinite resources cannot really make new chips faster than around 1 year from a design to first engineering samples


    also, Nvidia gave all their products a clock bump recently, as did amd, they just decided to call the clock bumped cards a higher number aswell, a trick to get people to look at a "new" product, this has been done by both companies numerous times just to clarify.


    fyi the polaris chips are not a dieshrink, the design has been changed, the primitive discard accelerator for example is a new component the chip also has fewer memory controllers. the rx 470 is a polaris 10 gpu, same silicon as the rx 480, with stream processors disabled, so that they can sell partially defective chips rather than throw them away.
     
  20. Ryu5uzaku

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    RX 470 is no die shrunk 380x. o_O what are you on about even if it has the same amount of shaders and the like it does not mean it's a die shrink. Tonga aka 380x is gcn 1.2 same as Fiji cards. That is kind of like saying the 7970 is the same as 380x even tho it ain't.

    Nvidia did rebrands mostly in lower end like AMD. Geforce 2 mx to Geforce 4 mx. 8800gt was rebranded forever.

    It's a working strategy really. If the rebrand offers even something over the old one np.
     

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