High End Audiophile thread

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by ROBSCIX, Jan 2, 2013.

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  1. ROBSCIX

    ROBSCIX Ancient Guru

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    With any gold, it is only of use if you know how to identify and extract the useful material from the useless. I read through and there is a alot of good information, but there is also a great deal of paranoia and snakeoil.
     
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    bit my head off? nah...ive had worse from better :)

    I have been...and there is a difference..but im still not quite convinced...even with my hardware...i question it....part of my nature..as you can clearly see in my post :)
     
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    jplay sound quality

    Hello I registered myself because I am a Classe' owner and I use jplay since more than one year...operating system is Windows 8 installed on external ssd battery powered, my audio setup is the following: Arcam d33 dac, Wireworld starlight silver usb cable, pre Classe' Six, power amp Classe' 175-A, speakers Martin Logan Sequel 2, sub Velodyne dd 18, signal cables Audioquest Cheetha balanced, Kimber 8tc + 4tc for biwiring and Kimber Palladian power cables for amp and sub. IMHO jplay,on a dedicated Windows installation, is giving me the sound quality I always dreamed to hear....much better than any cd or sacd (my player was Marantz sa11 s1 soon for sale on ebay). If you want to know more I will be glad to answer even in my poor english.Greetings from Italy
     
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    Sorry this wanted to be a reply to ASLayer AODsk 01.06.2013 18:52 but I'm not used to write on forums and made some mistake posting...
     

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    Sounds like a very involved system you have there. Have you done any mods that are mentioned in that thread?
     
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    As they suggest on Jplay forum, I use a dedicated Windows 8 to go installation, no internet,antivirus, I use Total Commander and Fidelizer, only eleven processes left when I play music...someone on forum has only five processes left...
     
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    wow...thats quite the system...*a tad jealous* :)

    especially the Kimber 8tc....
     
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    Welcome to Guru3D :) I'm from Australia and that is an awesome system you've got there... To get the best sound, just send it to me, just joking :)
    That DAC would have awesome sound and how low does that Velodyne sub go?

    regards,
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    Thanks...it took me more than 20 years to build my audio chain, spending money when I could. About Arcam d33 I like it very much, be warned that it needs a long burning in (two or three weeks) before giving its best. Velodyne dd18 is a real monster sub, I've decided to buy it to turn my logans into a kind of jbl monitor...it works. The frequency response goes below 15 Hz , with the Jplay 5 release candidate number 3 it became simply stunning you should hear the kick drum so tight and fast...even if my listening room is not very big. If someone
    told me some years ago that I could use a pc as high end source surely I would not believe it.
     
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    I seem to change my system too often....It is the best part and worst part of being a reviewer!
     

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    well Ive been researching for a few days straight now at every opportunity..and honestly...if i had to go with popular opinion, its that Jplay is the new 'Bose' of software...take that how you will..but I tried to stay away from the 'official' forums myself as thats just feeding at the programmed trough...so...im trying to keep it as neutral as possible...giving it a chance, while leaving my mind/ears open to the idea of scrutiny too...Im just not sold....my pc system is quite overkill on many levels..even running 4ohms as well.....and adding a power conditioner in the next month or so....with decently shielded cables and interconnects...really...Im still not sold its just not an EQ 'fix' for $150....ive been searching forum after forum about it....listening as well....with/without jplay on...I'm still just not convinced...you can see my audio hardware listed there in my profile thing, so thats kinda where I sit for now....kinda on the fence...kinda not....
     
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    I love it, makes a big difference on Win 7 for me, running an external Sabre32 Reference DAC connected to the amp with home made silver wire interconnects (soldered one end into the amp).
    Its worth trying a good silver interconnect, it made a big difference!

    I was thinking earlier that I should install Win 8 to see how it sounds (didnt check that when I ran the beta) and if JPlay improves on it much.

    On Win 7, JPlay sounds so bl**dy awesome, clearer, everything placed so precisely and detail I've never come across, tons of microdetail.
    Currently listening to Extreme Pornograffiti :D

    ps nice kit :)
     
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    I was just pricing out 805D's tonight a bit...maybe next years purchase :) I have to get my Martin Logan Aerius I's out of storage here in the next few months...I miss them quite badly :)
     
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    I'm interested to know why you would be looking at getting other speakers when you have a sweet set of electrostats sat in a cupboard !

    What DAC and amp are you using with your 610s?
     
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    Thats quite some system!
    Its a shame you are so far away, I'd like to hear it.

    If you get a chance to try the Oppo 105 SACD/Blu Ray player (Sabre32 ref DAC), I'm interested to know how it compares to your DAC.
    I was surprised by it, really refined with intricate delicate detail.

    I preferred it to my Minimax Plus DAC playing from PC, but that was before JPlay, gotta do that comparison again now :)
    An opamp replacement in my DAC might help, they are socketed for easy changing, although that busts the warranty.
    Looking at the NewClassDs, they are regarded well.
    http://www.newclassd.com/index.php?page=55

    Welcome to the forum :)
     

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    You can never have enough and high end enough speakers :)
    and I just have a NAD 7120 to my Essence STX non-optical.

    For my ML's I have an Anthem MCA 2 and an older Denon 1801. It's been in storage for a while..:)
     
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    Well, Everybody has to make their own opinions. It is not just EQ...not even close. I experiment with all kinds of stuff both HW and SW, some stuff I adopt and some I throw away. We all have to make that call on our own.
     
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    Well in your opinion then, what would make this 'feat' so accomplishable now? and how? thats really my largest boggle about this whole thing...and if its so GREAT..why only $150CDN? If they can accomplish what Krell charges $100,000 to do with several pieces of hardware...it just doesnt make sense...at all.
     
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    I would say ask Mufllore as he has been putting in more time doing research on it. $150 for an output plugin for a player is anything but cheap!
    If you are interested in the exact details of what is going on, check the forums and talk to the guy that wrote it.
    Tha app and other like it have been out for quite awhile so it didn't just pop up. Mem style players are few but they are out there.
     
  20. Mufflore

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    They cant achieve what Krell do with software only, the hardware has to be of a very high standard too.
    While JPlay does sound better, it isnt up to the standard of a high end player, not by a long shot.
    You need to tweak the hardware to maddening extremes AND limit interference from processing.
    Even then, a PC may never be able to achieve what Krell have unless you morph it into something completely unrecognisable that will probably take 10x the space.
    It still might not make the grade.

    In post #46, I explained the need for JPlay and hardware tweaking if you want to get the best from your "PC".
    In post #79, there is a link to the hardware tweaks that have been tried by one of JPlays devs and other guys that joined in, if you want to know how involved it is.
    They are still researching.

    JPlay tones down basic issues and some complex ones that a PC has.
    Its only a part of the puzzle.
     
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