Solution to poor gf4 performance

Discussion in 'Links' started by McDeth, Jul 5, 2002.

  1. V_LESTAT

    V_LESTAT Maha Guru

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    mj you are correct about that.
    from the research i have done since i posted my last one. i have found that intel has retired these boards after only 1 1/2-2 yrs.
    I got so mad at that, as a last resort i called American Megatrends(AMI) to get a new bios, and because of their contract with Intel, they cant do anything about it. these boards are socket 423, which was short lived as intel turned right around and brought out the socket 478 i845 chipset which performs way better. AMI said they have a long list of complaints about poor performance with this motherboad chipset, the i850. but again there is nothing we can do.
    so until someone is able to hack the bios, and open up the options that intel has locked out, so that we may be able to tweak the settings that need to be tweaked to make this motherboard run properly.
    im not a programmer or encrytion specialist, im a hardware guy, my knowledge is in hardware, and all i know is intel motherboards are one of the worst on the market, they build them for durability and reliability, not speed.
     
  2. Nocture

    Nocture Guest

    Rivatuner doesn't support the newer drivers (ie. 43.00)..

    So it's now really that handy to upgrade the 'beta' drivers because programmes like this won't recognise the drivers..

    What is the latest version that Riva Supports?

    The original 41.09 driver, or also higher versions?
     
  3. Nicros

    Nicros Guest

    Hi all,

    Im going to run 3DMark to test performance in my system and wanna know what i must disable/enable to run the test, like disabling AA, etc

    Thx :)
     
  4. V_LESTAT

    V_LESTAT Maha Guru

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    technically you dont disable any of that, 3dmark handles it, it has a default of no AA or anistropic filtering.

    to increase speed, use something like rivatuner or nvhardpage or simply the nvidia control panel and turn texture and mipmap detail to low or a setting lower than low. that forces 3dmark to run at a lower setting than default.
    thats how so many people get insane scores,, not the FULL reason but it adds to the score when the benchmark dont have to render everything in high detail.
     

  5. Nicros

    Nicros Guest

    Well i downloaded the new version of 3DMark, 3DMark03 and i get a result of 1350 3DMarks:

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=528558

    comparing my result with another similar configurations looks like the usual scores in similar hardware profiles.

    Someone here using 3DMark03? I think is a normal mark comparing to other systems but what you think? its good or bad?
     
  6. V_LESTAT

    V_LESTAT Maha Guru

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    yeah that is about right for your system,
    you only have a 64 meg video card which isnt helping, wierd i thought all the Ti 4200's were 128 meg cards... unless the 64 is just your agp aperture. ?
    your also using a REALLY old nvidia driver, go to nvidia.com and get the latest XP driver, they just released one, it is said to help a little bit for games.
     
  7. Nicros

    Nicros Guest

    It isnt the AGP aperture is the card memory :(
    I downloaded the lastest drivers but i heard that ppl was having some problems with it.
    I downloaded the 3DMark2001SE and test it with 30.82 Nvidia drivers and i got 9389 3D marks, after that i upgraded the drivers to the lastest (43.45) and i got a mark of 10015 :) a very nice update hehe ;)

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6256071
     
  8. V_LESTAT

    V_LESTAT Maha Guru

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    wow that is a pretty good jump! ,, i heard they were good drivers,
     
  9. Emile

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    Enable AliAGP

    Hello SammyBoy,
    I did apply your tip on my GF4 TI4600 on an Abit Intel MB, it works fine !
    Thanks
    Any other recommendations ?:)
     
  10. InfiniteNothing

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    Missing Info about Ali AGP

    The Rivatuner "Enable ALI AGP" tips work fine for me +2000pts for 3Dmark2k1se. But i get this boost only after i update my "AliAgp driver" direct from ALI WEB PAGE and i update my MOBO bios too. Those 3 lil detail fix all my Videocard problem since the 40.72 driver set... well i hope this can help few guys here :D
     
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  11. mj8181

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    yeh, that is working great for people with ali, but for all of us that got other chipsets that of course doesn´t work.
    As far as i know, the AGP acceleration is enabled by default on my computer, i850 chipset.
     
  12. V_LESTAT

    V_LESTAT Maha Guru

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    AGP Acceleration is 1x 2x 4x and 8x(for those with newer boards)

    its just plain stupid for someone to recommend that you turn a 4x agp board down to 2x as you'll be lucky if you can even play any of the games from the last couple of years. and in fact may possibly end up getting error messages saying that the game cannot find a compatable video card because it needs 4x to run.

    on the other hand, its fine and to turn an 8x agp board down to 4x simply beacuse 8x is NOT even really 8x its more like 5x. and 8x at this time is very unstable.
     
  13. Spud211

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    Well the solution kinda works for me, ive got an Ali Chipset and an asus GF4 ti4200 128 meg, the only prob is that it makes my PC very very unstable, it crashes seconds after starting any game when i use the tweak. After investigating the Ali website it appears that the tweak enables AGP texture accelleration, hence the big speed boost. i can run the 1st test in 3d mark and i see a 50 fps increase in that test, but it crashes on the second

    Anyone have an idea on how to fix this problem, the boot would be great if my PC didnt crash when using it. Ive tried 3 diff Ali AGP drivers, and 5 diff detonators but nothin works
     
  14. CsLoSeR619

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    Well to start off i seem to be having fps problems and such on games like Planetside (beta) and the newer games. On my 3dmark test i got a 6555 with defualt settings....i kno this is low when compared to others scores...Im really not sure whats wrong could anyone help me get my gf4 up and running with the big boys?
     
  15. renegade150

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    will turning on that button increase performence on my videocard? (on the side)
     

  16. V_LESTAT

    V_LESTAT Maha Guru

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    6555,, sounds like my old scores before i tweaked the card with nvhardpage.
    also your biggest problem is that Intel D850EMV2 motherboard you have the intel 850 chipsets SUCK MAJOR A$$!!!! the 850 i had is about the worst motherbpoard for performance i have ever owned.
    grab an 845 or your better off actually grabbing a nice asus board.
    i can just about guarentee it will run WAY WAY faster.
    try the card in a buddies machine that is different from yours. i bet it runs better.
     
  17. Exucide

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    no... i have an intel845 chipset and i have the same problem

    all intel chipsets blow.
     
  18. CsLoSeR619

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    I would get a good asus board but i cant find one that supports RDRAM because thats what I have now...i can sell it and buy DDR but iono...
     
  19. tigertailz

    tigertailz Guest

    /sigh geforce 4400Ti 128M (V8440).....getting a shocking 1500 on 3d bench test :/

    i have all the latest drivers for my asus A7S333 mobo (via 4in1 and mobo bios) reinstalled AGP driver..

    have 768M DDR....

    have the 44.03 drivers....tried the new 'beta' one but same deal

    cannot shift it over 1500 :(

    any help gratefully recieved :D
     
  20. GooferZz

    GooferZz Guest

    i have detonator 44,03 driver installed and rivatuner cannot find a matched database, i tried with the nvidia WHQL Certified drivers 30,82 (couldn't find any other), but this one does not recognise my 3d card (gf4ti4800)
    what to do?
    thnx in advance ;)
     

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